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		<title>By: Ohio poll workers convicted of rigging 2004 recount - Homeland Stupidity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohio poll workers convicted of rigging 2004 recount - Homeland Stupidity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 8:21 am Updated: January 30, 2007 8:36 am  Share this story: &#160;del.icio.us &#160;reddit.com &#160;Newsvine       2004 Election 2004 Election Hacked?Recount OhioIt&#039;s official: Vote fraud found in FloridaWhythe Ohio recount doesn&#039;t matterFirst arrests for vote fraudCobb: Voting machine vendor tampered with Ohio recountBush wins Ohio recount...or did he?And now, the next governor of Ohio...How the exit polls were FUBARedTransparent lobbying for e-voting reform this weekDiebold Opti-Scan election hack demonstratedParties seek to reform Florida electionsWhistleblower: Diebold doesn&#039;t care about election securityDiebold tries to evade North Carolina election lawDiebold to North Carolina: We&#039;re leavingNorth Carolina compromises election integrityVotes altered on Diebold election equipmentDiebold quits North CarolinaOhio recount lawsuit thrown outElections easier to rig than slot machinesVenezuela&#039;s involvement in U.S. electionsOhio poll workers indicted for fudging 2004 recountWas the 2004 election stolen?Ohio poll workers convicted of rigging 2004 recount [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 8:21 am Updated: January 30, 2007 8:36 am  Share this story: &nbsp;del.icio.us &nbsp;reddit.com &nbsp;Newsvine       2004 Election 2004 Election Hacked?Recount OhioIt&#8217;s official: Vote fraud found in FloridaWhythe Ohio recount doesn&#8217;t matterFirst arrests for vote fraudCobb: Voting machine vendor tampered with Ohio recountBush wins Ohio recount&#8230;or did he?And now, the next governor of Ohio&#8230;How the exit polls were FUBARedTransparent lobbying for e-voting reform this weekDiebold Opti-Scan election hack demonstratedParties seek to reform Florida electionsWhistleblower: Diebold doesn&#8217;t care about election securityDiebold tries to evade North Carolina election lawDiebold to North Carolina: We&#8217;re leavingNorth Carolina compromises election integrityVotes altered on Diebold election equipmentDiebold quits North CarolinaOhio recount lawsuit thrown outElections easier to rig than slot machinesVenezuela&#8217;s involvement in U.S. electionsOhio poll workers indicted for fudging 2004 recountWas the 2004 election stolen?Ohio poll workers convicted of rigging 2004 recount [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2004/12/02/why-the-ohio-recount-doesnt-matter/#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2007 05:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say &quot;Me, personally, I hate this fucking country. I hate America. Iâ€™m not violent; Iâ€™m not a terrorist (Oh, wait; thanks to the patriot act, I am a terrorist for simply saying that I hate this FUCKING COUNTRY). My solution, rather than try to fix Rome mid-collapse, is to make for another country.&quot;

Which country would you go to? Which one has a better or more fair system of government?

And as for changing this country, would you like to take the power of vote buying away from the politicians? It can be done by enough people pushing to have the &quot;Fair Tax Plan&quot; implemented. Check out Congressman John Lender, he is the sponsor of the bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say &#8220;Me, personally, I hate this fucking country. I hate America. Iâ€™m not violent; Iâ€™m not a terrorist (Oh, wait; thanks to the patriot act, I am a terrorist for simply saying that I hate this FUCKING COUNTRY). My solution, rather than try to fix Rome mid-collapse, is to make for another country.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which country would you go to? Which one has a better or more fair system of government?</p>
<p>And as for changing this country, would you like to take the power of vote buying away from the politicians? It can be done by enough people pushing to have the &#8220;Fair Tax Plan&#8221; implemented. Check out Congressman John Lender, he is the sponsor of the bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Ohio recount lawsuit thrown out - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohio recount lawsuit thrown out - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2006 01:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 2004 Election 2004 Election Hacked?Recount OhioIt&#039;s official: Vote fraud found in FloridaWhy the Ohio recount doesn&#039;t matterFirst arrests for vote fraudCobb: Voting machine vendor tampered with Ohio recountBush wins Ohio recount...or did he?And now, the next governor of Ohio...How the exit polls were FUBARedTransparent lobbying for e-voting reform this weekDiebold Opti-Scan election hack demonstratedParties seek to reform Florida electionsWhistleblower: Diebold doesn&#039;t care about election securityDiebold tries to evade North Carolina election lawDiebold to North Carolina: We&#039;re leavingNorth Carolina compromises election integrityVotes altered on Diebold election equipmentDiebold quits North CarolinaOhio recount lawsuit thrown out [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 2004 Election 2004 Election Hacked?Recount OhioIt&#8217;s official: Vote fraud found in FloridaWhy the Ohio recount doesn&#8217;t matterFirst arrests for vote fraudCobb: Voting machine vendor tampered with Ohio recountBush wins Ohio recount&#8230;or did he?And now, the next governor of Ohio&#8230;How the exit polls were FUBARedTransparent lobbying for e-voting reform this weekDiebold Opti-Scan election hack demonstratedParties seek to reform Florida electionsWhistleblower: Diebold doesn&#8217;t care about election securityDiebold tries to evade North Carolina election lawDiebold to North Carolina: We&#8217;re leavingNorth Carolina compromises election integrityVotes altered on Diebold election equipmentDiebold quits North CarolinaOhio recount lawsuit thrown out [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Has America become fascist? The 14 defining characteristics of fascism - IO ERROR</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2004/12/02/why-the-ohio-recount-doesnt-matter/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>Has America become fascist? The 14 defining characteristics of fascism - IO ERROR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 01:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Fraudulent Elections &#8211; Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: pluggo</title>
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		<dc:creator>pluggo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2004 20:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes, the popular vote. For one thing, if I remember correctly, Al Gore won the popular vote last time around.

Now, this electoral college, I think, is complete bullshit. Sure, I see the reasoning behind its creation; it&#039;s just obsolete now that people can communicate in microseconds as opposed to weeks.

However, it is still in the Constitution. And the Constitution is the supreme law of the land. So in order to dump the electoral college, a Constitutional amendment is required. As none was made, the electoral college system is still the system we use. If you don&#039;t like it, write your congressional representitave.

Now, back to the popular vote. How was the popular vote tabulated? Exit polls. After all, a real election takes a while (until Dec. 6, in this case) to get counted and certified; we&#039;re Americans, so we demand results NOW. And exit polls are conducted by third parties, who ask people who they voted for. For one thing, people could lie. I can&#039;t think of any reason to do so right now, but I&#039;m sure some people did just to see if they could get away with it- compulsive liars, if you will. I also know people who would vote one way and then tell the exit pollster and everyone else they know they voted the other, because of so-called peer pressure and fear of a lack of acceptance. This is why we have a secret ballot; so people can vote their conscience and not worry how people will look at them later.

The exit polls also are conducted privately, if I remember correctly. I doubt there&#039;s anyone overseeing these things; my guess is that they&#039;re not anywhere near as well-regimented as the real election, and the so-called real election could well have been stolen.

How is this? Bush has connections. He&#039;s probably one of the more politically well-connected people in the world. This doesn&#039;t mean he&#039;s not an idiot, or that he&#039;s a good president, or even that he&#039;s a good person. It just means that he&#039;s well-connected and knows the right people.

Like the Saudis. Bush and his kin receive billions annually in &quot;investments&quot; in their private oil companies and &quot;campaign donations.&quot; As they say, one dollar buys one vote; either through advertising in smear campaigns (which both sides indulged in), or through bribes to election officials. I&#039;ll let you decide the ratio.

Warning: what follows is pure conspiracy theory. It is simply a thought on one possible scenario, which I do not necessarily believe to be true or untrue.

So people responsible for counting in certain key districts modify their results a bit. Just a little; it&#039;s all that&#039;s necessary to steal an election when you just need a simple majority.

Combine this with the rollout of the Diebold election machines. These things leave no paper trail, thus making recounts an impossibility. Not only this, but the election results are reported as a simple number; X votes for candidate A, Y for B, Z for C, etc. Granted, this is the final format necessary for tabulation, but since there is no paper trail, and these machines have been demonstrated time and again to have massive security problems, it would be trivial to essentially tell the machine that the results had been different. And there would be no paper trail to retrieve the actual results, if such foul play were actually detected.

What we&#039;re left with is a system that&#039;s hopelessly outdated that&#039;s trying to graft new technology on to keep things &quot;up-to-date&quot; in such a way that the worst of the technology and the worst of the old system synergize. The new capabilities of the old system simply allow the old system to be even more flawed in even more ridiculous ways.

So, write your representative in congress. Write your senator. Write anyone you can think of who actually has the power to change the system, rather than bitch anonymously on someone else&#039;s blog about the system that you didn&#039;t try to get changed until way after it was too late.

Me, personally, I hate this fucking country. I hate America. I&#039;m not violent; I&#039;m not a terrorist (Oh, wait; thanks to the patriot act, I am a terrorist for simply saying that I hate this FUCKING COUNTRY). My solution, rather than try to fix Rome mid-collapse, is to make for another country. I think there&#039;s too much wrong with this country now for anyone less than a dictator or a complete redesign of the government to fix. Thomas Jefferson has a fairly famous quote with a similar sentiment; he says that every few centuries, there must be a revolution in order to keep a republican (not the party, the form of government) system operational and fair, and that the blood of a few is little sacrifice if it secures liberty. We can see the rot now, can we not? So either change it, shut up, or move out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, the popular vote. For one thing, if I remember correctly, Al Gore won the popular vote last time around.</p>
<p>Now, this electoral college, I think, is complete bullshit. Sure, I see the reasoning behind its creation; it&#8217;s just obsolete now that people can communicate in microseconds as opposed to weeks.</p>
<p>However, it is still in the Constitution. And the Constitution is the supreme law of the land. So in order to dump the electoral college, a Constitutional amendment is required. As none was made, the electoral college system is still the system we use. If you don&#8217;t like it, write your congressional representitave.</p>
<p>Now, back to the popular vote. How was the popular vote tabulated? Exit polls. After all, a real election takes a while (until Dec. 6, in this case) to get counted and certified; we&#8217;re Americans, so we demand results NOW. And exit polls are conducted by third parties, who ask people who they voted for. For one thing, people could lie. I can&#8217;t think of any reason to do so right now, but I&#8217;m sure some people did just to see if they could get away with it- compulsive liars, if you will. I also know people who would vote one way and then tell the exit pollster and everyone else they know they voted the other, because of so-called peer pressure and fear of a lack of acceptance. This is why we have a secret ballot; so people can vote their conscience and not worry how people will look at them later.</p>
<p>The exit polls also are conducted privately, if I remember correctly. I doubt there&#8217;s anyone overseeing these things; my guess is that they&#8217;re not anywhere near as well-regimented as the real election, and the so-called real election could well have been stolen.</p>
<p>How is this? Bush has connections. He&#8217;s probably one of the more politically well-connected people in the world. This doesn&#8217;t mean he&#8217;s not an idiot, or that he&#8217;s a good president, or even that he&#8217;s a good person. It just means that he&#8217;s well-connected and knows the right people.</p>
<p>Like the Saudis. Bush and his kin receive billions annually in &#8220;investments&#8221; in their private oil companies and &#8220;campaign donations.&#8221; As they say, one dollar buys one vote; either through advertising in smear campaigns (which both sides indulged in), or through bribes to election officials. I&#8217;ll let you decide the ratio.</p>
<p>Warning: what follows is pure conspiracy theory. It is simply a thought on one possible scenario, which I do not necessarily believe to be true or untrue.</p>
<p>So people responsible for counting in certain key districts modify their results a bit. Just a little; it&#8217;s all that&#8217;s necessary to steal an election when you just need a simple majority.</p>
<p>Combine this with the rollout of the Diebold election machines. These things leave no paper trail, thus making recounts an impossibility. Not only this, but the election results are reported as a simple number; X votes for candidate A, Y for B, Z for C, etc. Granted, this is the final format necessary for tabulation, but since there is no paper trail, and these machines have been demonstrated time and again to have massive security problems, it would be trivial to essentially tell the machine that the results had been different. And there would be no paper trail to retrieve the actual results, if such foul play were actually detected.</p>
<p>What we&#8217;re left with is a system that&#8217;s hopelessly outdated that&#8217;s trying to graft new technology on to keep things &#8220;up-to-date&#8221; in such a way that the worst of the technology and the worst of the old system synergize. The new capabilities of the old system simply allow the old system to be even more flawed in even more ridiculous ways.</p>
<p>So, write your representative in congress. Write your senator. Write anyone you can think of who actually has the power to change the system, rather than bitch anonymously on someone else&#8217;s blog about the system that you didn&#8217;t try to get changed until way after it was too late.</p>
<p>Me, personally, I hate this fucking country. I hate America. I&#8217;m not violent; I&#8217;m not a terrorist (Oh, wait; thanks to the patriot act, I am a terrorist for simply saying that I hate this FUCKING COUNTRY). My solution, rather than try to fix Rome mid-collapse, is to make for another country. I think there&#8217;s too much wrong with this country now for anyone less than a dictator or a complete redesign of the government to fix. Thomas Jefferson has a fairly famous quote with a similar sentiment; he says that every few centuries, there must be a revolution in order to keep a republican (not the party, the form of government) system operational and fair, and that the blood of a few is little sacrifice if it secures liberty. We can see the rot now, can we not? So either change it, shut up, or move out.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2004 15:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ironically, I&#039;d rather have a President I don&#039;t like who &quot;stole&quot; the electoral college vote BUT WHO WON THE POPULAR VOTE than a President I do like who legitimately won the electoral vote but LOST the popular vote.

I usually don&#039;t like to &quot;break the rules&quot; but if it means respecting the will of the people in a Presidential election I am.

Dump the electoral college.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironically, I&#8217;d rather have a President I don&#8217;t like who &#8220;stole&#8221; the electoral college vote BUT WHO WON THE POPULAR VOTE than a President I do like who legitimately won the electoral vote but LOST the popular vote.</p>
<p>I usually don&#8217;t like to &#8220;break the rules&#8221; but if it means respecting the will of the people in a Presidential election I am.</p>
<p>Dump the electoral college.</p>
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