Comments on: U.S. Border Patrol ordered not to arrest illegal aliens http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2005/05/13/us-border-patrol-ordered-not-to-arrest-illegal-aliens/ Protect yourself from government gaffes, bureaucratic blunders and incumbent incompetence Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:25:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: learn about it http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2005/05/13/us-border-patrol-ordered-not-to-arrest-illegal-aliens/#comment-583 learn about it Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:31:54 +0000 http://www.ioerror.us/?p=109#comment-583 My comment is in response to the statement by "An American Citizen" that "Illegal immigrants have NO constitutional rights, but WE DO!" The 14th Amendment says, in part, “...nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” It does not say “citizen.” It says “person.” There is a difference. Although undocumented immigrants do not share ALL of the constitutional rights afforded U.S. citizens (such as the right to vote), they do have constitutional rights thanks to 14th Amendment. Here are 2 quick examples: #1 - In 1982, the Supreme Court held that illegal immigrants are constitutionally entitled to attend public primary and secondary schools. It is unconstitutional to deny immigrants public education (at the primary and secondary levels) solely based upon their undocumented status. The name of the case is Plyer v. Doe, 457 U.S. 202 (1982). # 2 - In 1984, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that undocumented immigrants are considered employees under the National Labor Relations Act and are, therefore, protected against unfair labor practices. This means they are entitled to minimum wage, overtime pay, participate in unions, etc. [However, I concede there are restrictions on their right to receive back pay if they are wrongfully terminated]. The name of the case is Sure-Tan, Inc. v. NLRB, 467 U.S. 883 (1984). My point is that the statement that illegal immigrants have “no constitutional rights” couldn’t be more inaccurate. It always amazes me when people offer such strong opinions about matters on which they are clearly uninformed. No one knows it all, but let’s at least try to learn a little before we start shooting off at the mouth! My comment is in response to the statement by “An American Citizen” that “Illegal immigrants have NO constitutional rights, but WE DO!”

The 14th Amendment says, in part, “…nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” It does not say “citizen.” It says “person.” There is a difference.

Although undocumented immigrants do not share ALL of the constitutional rights afforded U.S. citizens (such as the right to vote), they do have constitutional rights thanks to 14th Amendment. Here are 2 quick examples:

#1 – In 1982, the Supreme Court held that illegal immigrants are constitutionally entitled to attend public primary and secondary schools. It is unconstitutional to deny immigrants public education (at the primary and secondary levels) solely based upon their undocumented status. The name of the case is Plyer v. Doe, 457 U.S. 202 (1982).

# 2 – In 1984, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that undocumented immigrants are considered employees under the National Labor Relations Act and are, therefore, protected against unfair labor practices. This means they are entitled to minimum wage, overtime pay, participate in unions, etc. [However, I concede there are restrictions on their right to receive back pay if they are wrongfully terminated]. The name of the case is Sure-Tan, Inc. v. NLRB, 467 U.S. 883 (1984).

My point is that the statement that illegal immigrants have “no constitutional rights” couldn’t be more inaccurate. It always amazes me when people offer such strong opinions about matters on which they are clearly uninformed. No one knows it all, but let’s at least try to learn a little before we start shooting off at the mouth!

]]> By: An American Citizen http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2005/05/13/us-border-patrol-ordered-not-to-arrest-illegal-aliens/#comment-582 An American Citizen Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:51:41 +0000 http://www.ioerror.us/?p=109#comment-582 Article III. Section 3 of the Constitution of the United States of America defines the crime of treason and the punishment. Read it! The Constitution was designed to protect citizens of the United States. Illegal immigrants have NO constitutional rights, but WE DO! I agree with Al, "This is a crime of treason in the time of war". WE ARE AT WAR people, wake up!!, and <strong>Treason is punishable by death!</strong> I say we let the wetbacks cross over illegally then kill them. It's that simple. I'm moving to Arizona soon and I for one will not put up with this! I'm also sick and tired of OUR taxes going towards translating everything into Spanish just to make it easier for Mexicans. Where's the incentive to learn to speak, read and write English? What's wrong with this picture?! It's time for us citizens to take a stand against this....NOW!! Article III. Section 3 of the Constitution of the United States of America defines the crime of treason and the punishment. Read it! The Constitution was designed to protect citizens of the United States. Illegal immigrants have NO constitutional rights, but WE DO!

I agree with Al, “This is a crime of treason in the time of war”. WE ARE AT WAR people, wake up!!, and Treason is punishable by death! I say we let the wetbacks cross over illegally then kill them. It’s that simple. I’m moving to Arizona soon and I for one will not put up with this!

I’m also sick and tired of OUR taxes going towards translating everything into Spanish just to make it easier for Mexicans. Where’s the incentive to learn to speak, read and write English? What’s wrong with this picture?! It’s time for us citizens to take a stand against this….NOW!!

]]> By: joe kelly http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2005/05/13/us-border-patrol-ordered-not-to-arrest-illegal-aliens/#comment-581 joe kelly Sun, 28 Jan 2007 01:01:45 +0000 http://www.ioerror.us/?p=109#comment-581 ur thing sucks ur thing sucks

]]> By: Al Doten http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2005/05/13/us-border-patrol-ordered-not-to-arrest-illegal-aliens/#comment-579 Al Doten Sat, 20 Jan 2007 06:28:49 +0000 http://www.ioerror.us/?p=109#comment-579 We need to get the names of the people giving orders not to do their jobs on the border,by using the freedom of infermation act to find out who they are. And stop this foolishness of wasting tax payer money, not to enforce our border laws, in the time of war on terror. This is a crime of treeson in the time of war. We need to get the names of the people giving orders not to do their jobs on the border,by using the freedom of infermation act to find out who they are. And stop this foolishness of wasting tax payer money, not to enforce our border laws, in the time of war on terror. This is a crime of treeson in the time of war.

]]> By: Al Doten http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2005/05/13/us-border-patrol-ordered-not-to-arrest-illegal-aliens/#comment-580 Al Doten Sat, 20 Jan 2007 06:28:49 +0000 http://www.ioerror.us/?p=109#comment-580 We need to get the names of the people giving orders not to do their jobs on the border,by using the freedom of infermation act to find out who they are. And stop this foolishness of wasting tax payer money, not to enforce our border laws, in the time of war on terror. This is a crime of treeson in the time of war. We need to get the names of the people giving orders not to do their jobs on the border,by using the freedom of infermation act to find out who they are. And stop this foolishness of wasting tax payer money, not to enforce our border laws, in the time of war on terror. This is a crime of treeson in the time of war.

]]> By: Department of Homeland Security still clueless - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2005/05/13/us-border-patrol-ordered-not-to-arrest-illegal-aliens/#comment-578 Department of Homeland Security still clueless - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:50:15 +0000 http://www.ioerror.us/?p=109#comment-578 [...] That’s what government does best: create bureaucracy and spend money. It is completely incapable of solving most problems. It’s telling how ineffective the government is at homeland security when ordinary citizens have to come together to do a job the government should be doing! Chertoff needs to focus on security priorities instead of ways to shuffle his mammoth 180,000 employee department. [...] [...] That’s what government does best: create bureaucracy and spend money. It is completely incapable of solving most problems. It’s telling how ineffective the government is at homeland security when ordinary citizens have to come together to do a job the government should be doing! Chertoff needs to focus on security priorities instead of ways to shuffle his mammoth 180,000 employee department. [...]

]]> By: Has America become fascist? The 14 defining characteristics of fascism - IO ERROR http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2005/05/13/us-border-patrol-ordered-not-to-arrest-illegal-aliens/#comment-577 Has America become fascist? The 14 defining characteristics of fascism - IO ERROR Sun, 28 Aug 2005 01:15:55 +0000 http://www.ioerror.us/?p=109#comment-577 [...] Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized. [...] [...] Supremacy of the Military – Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized. [...]

]]> By: IO ERROR http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2005/05/13/us-border-patrol-ordered-not-to-arrest-illegal-aliens/#comment-576 IO ERROR Sat, 16 Jul 2005 08:16:38 +0000 http://www.ioerror.us/?p=109#comment-576 <strong>Department of Homeland Security still clueless</strong> Jeff Crouere at Bayou Buzz has a scathing commentary on the Department of Homeland Security’s mismanagement of homeland security issues. ... Department of Homeland Security still clueless

Jeff Crouere at Bayou Buzz has a scathing commentary on the Department of Homeland Security’s mismanagement of homeland security issues.

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]]> By: Jason http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2005/05/13/us-border-patrol-ordered-not-to-arrest-illegal-aliens/#comment-574 Jason Fri, 13 May 2005 11:05:30 +0000 http://www.ioerror.us/?p=109#comment-574 I live in Arizona... :( Wow... I live in Arizona… :(
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