President Bush in 2002 secretly authorized the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on Americans inside the U.S. in apparent contravention of law, government sources told theNew York Times. When theTimes found out about it, the White House urged the paper to sit on the story, and it did — for a whole year.
The mission of the NSA is, in part, to monitor foreign communications. The executive order, however, authorized the agency to monitor communications originating or terminating in the U.S., without obtaining the required warrants, if the communications might even be remotely related to terrorism, according to nearly a dozen government sources.
Normally the agency must get a warrant from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court or another court in order to monitor communications in the U.S. The court granted 1,758 such warrants in 2004, not denying a single request.
Sources said that it simply took too long to get a warrant and that vital information could be lost during that time.
According to those officials and others, reservations about aspects of the program have also been expressed by Senator John D. Rockefeller IV, the West Virginia Democrat who is the vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, and a judge presiding over a secret court that oversees intelligence matters. Some of the questions about the agency’s new powers led the administration to temporarily suspend the operation last year and impose more restrictions, the officials said.
The Bush administration views the operation as necessary so that the agency can move quickly to monitor communications that may disclose threats to the United States, the officials said. Defenders of the program say it has been a critical tool in helping disrupt terrorist plots and prevent attacks inside the United States.
Administration officials are confident that existing safeguards are sufficient to protect the privacy and civil liberties of Americans, the officials say. In some cases, they said, the Justice Department eventually seeks warrants if it wants to expand the eavesdropping to include communications confined within the United States. The officials said the administration had briefed Congressional leaders about the program and notified the judge in charge of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, the secret Washington court that deals with national security issues.
The White House asked The New York Times not to publish this article, arguing that it could jeopardize continuing investigations and alert would-be terrorists that they might be under scrutiny. After meeting with senior administration officials to hear their concerns, the newspaper delayed publication for a year to conduct additional reporting. Some information that administration officials argued could be useful to terrorists has been omitted. — New York Times
Is it legal? It sure doesn’t look like it. Virtually everyone in Congress who was told about the program raised concerns about whether the program was lawful or even constitutional. One even wrote a letter to Vice President Cheney detailing his concerns, but doesn’t seem to have gotten a response.
A Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court judge even complained about the program, questioning whether information obtained by the NSA was being unlawfully used as the basis for FISA warrants. These are the warrants the government usually gets to collect this sort of intelligence on people in the U.S., and they have their own set of problems. (That’s a story for another day.)
Congressional sources familiar with limited aspects of the program would not discuss any classified details but made it clear there were serious questions regarding the legality of the NSA actions. The sources, who demanded anonymity, said there were conditions under which it would be possible to gather and retain information on Americans if part of an investigation into foreign intelligence.
But those cases are supposed to be minimized. The sources said the actual work of the NSA is so closely held that it is difficult to determine under which circumstances the information is being used for within the intelligence community and whether it comports with current law. — Washington Post
I’ve heard rumors about an NSA “special collection program” within the U.S. before, and I certainly watched Enemy of the State, but this is just mind blowing. You never think anything like that could really happen . . . until it does.
“Does anyone in D.C. read the Constitution any more?” asks Mike Horn.
Yes, Mike, they do. And then they go read other things which contradict it.
Mr. Bush’s executive order allowing some warrantless eavesdropping on those inside the United States – including American citizens, permanent legal residents, tourists and other foreigners – is based on classified legal opinions that assert that the president has broad powers to order such searches, derived in part from the September 2001 Congressional resolution authorizing him to wage war on Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups, according to the officials familiar with the N.S.A. operation. —New York Times
The liberals aren’t being so nice about it.
George W. Bush, the Republican opponent of Big Government, empowered Big Brother. Thanks to Bush’s secret move, Big Brother can listen in on your life you whenever Big Brother wants to. Big Brother doesn’t need a reason. Big Brother doesn’t have to justify its behavior to anybody. You will have no notice. You will have no recourse. . . .
George W. Bush subverted the Constitution and violated your rights, and he didn’t have the courage to make the change in public. — Irregular Times
The United States of America is supposed to be a nation of laws. In such a nation, no one, not even the President, is supposed to have the power to simply declare that the law no longer applies. A President who decides that he no longer needs to follow the requirements of the law is no longer a president, but a dictator. — Irregular Times
In mid-2004, theTimes reports, parts of the program were suspended and others revamped, but still it isn’t much better. Take a few minutes and read the entireTimes article and post your thoughts.
Dec 16, 2005
Senators, get your cots; we’re having a filibuster! - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Fatboy
Dec 16, 2005
Maybe I am being dense, but it was my understanding that the NSA *COULD* monitor communications that are terminated in a forign country. Was I wrong or is this politics? Or both?
Michael Hampton
Dec 16, 2005
Previous to this order, NSA could only monitor entirely foreign communications, or communications which were foreign in origin but terminated in the U.S. It could also monitor communications originating from foreign embassies within the U.S.
For all other communications, it needed a FISA order.
The change here is that NSA could now monitor communications originating in the U.S. without obtaining a warrant.
Fatboy
Dec 16, 2005
So the only difference now is if I called my buddy Saeed in Palestine, that conversation could be monitored vs before it could only be monitored if Saeed called me. Is that correct? If so, that is not how it is being portrayed on cnn and radio news blurbs.
Also, something I was wondering about, is it legal for them to monitor without a warrent and just not use the information for prosecution in a court of law?
Dec 16, 2005
Enemies, foreign and domestic - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
George Orwell
Dec 16, 2005
You might be interested in a report I did a few years ago
regarding the NSA spying on us domestically.
It includes a treatment of how they perform Internet email
monitoring, by way of my describing how I monitored the
emails of more than 7000 employees on Wall Street.
Cryptography_Manifesto
Somehow I’ve also managed to include a description of how
life begins from lifeless atoms.
Can you say, ‘bloviate’? Well, it was my first polemic.
Dec 19, 2005
Bush defends NSA surveillance program - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Dec 21, 2005
Your briefing on NSA domestic surveillance - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Michael Hampton
Dec 21, 2005
Part of the problem is that much of what NSA does is classified, and few details are known, even about the operations we know about.
There’s usually a good reason for keeping things secret, but there can also be bad reasons as well. ReadBody of Secrets if you haven’t already.
Dec 24, 2005
No Such Agency: Bamford speaks on NSA domestic surveillance - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Dec 24, 2005
Is your phone company spying on you? - Phone Watch
Dec 30, 2005
Justice Department probes surveillance leak - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Jan 01, 2006
NSA shared domestic intercepts with other agencies - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Jan 01, 2006
Bush admits NSA collection program, gives more details - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Jan 01, 2006
National security and intelligence collection - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Jan 01, 2006
The Four Horsemen of the Information Apocalypse - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Jan 01, 2006
Whistleblower: NSA spying on Americans - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Jan 02, 2006
The news just keeps breaking - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Jan 02, 2006
Nixon counsel: Bush surveillance program illegal - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Coyote Osborne
Jan 03, 2006
My problem is that if the agency is not answerable to anyone, or doesn’t have to give reasons for it’s use of such a power, or is only answerable to people who are themselves free from scrutiny, that it would be very _simple_ for these types of powers to be abused.
And no, I don’t believe “They’d never do that because that would be wrong.”
Jan 04, 2006
NSA releases first documents on surveillance program - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Jan 07, 2006
Abuses may influence Patriot Act debate - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Jan 12, 2006
NSA whistleblower admits being New York Times source - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Jan 15, 2006
NSA lives on the network - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Jan 15, 2006
Shocker! Terrorists use prepaid cell phones - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Jan 17, 2006
FBI officials: NSA tips led nowhere - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Feb 05, 2006
NSA surveillance finds thousands of innocent Americans - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Feb 06, 2006
Specter: NSA program violates law - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Feb 06, 2006
Bush smoking Old Dutch Cleanser? - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Feb 08, 2006
NSA likely had help with fiber-optic wiretaps - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Feb 08, 2006
Congress to receive briefings on NSA surveillance - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Feb 09, 2006
Bits of homeland surveillance - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Feb 14, 2006
National security whistleblower hearings begin - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Lenny Zimmermann
Feb 14, 2006
Another consideration is that some of the reports are suggesting that the data mining operations may be occuring on completely domestic communications. Which is supposedly not NSA purview at all.
In all the main issue here, to my way of thinking, is still less that the monitoring is occuring (I’m not really surprised by it) but that the Executive Branch of our government isn’t even putting up the pretext that they should be limited in power by any of the other branches, such as getting by a FISA warrant and having judicial review. It’s a pretty big power grab by the executive branch and a far bigger lie than either Clinton or, more importantly IMHO, Nixon ever told.
Mar 09, 2006
Senate subcommittee receives surveillance briefing - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Apr 09, 2006
AT&T cooperated with NSA surveillance - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
Apr 17, 2006
2006 Pulitzer Prizes announced - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
May 11, 2006
NSA collects call records for most Americans - Homeland Security or Homeland Stupidity
May 12, 2006
The NSA can see your phone records, but you can’t - Homeland Stupidity
May 13, 2006
Verizon sued over NSA phone record data mining - Homeland Stupidity
May 13, 2006
Hayden nominated for CIA director amid scandal - Homeland Stupidity
May 15, 2006
Tice will talk - Homeland Stupidity
May 26, 2006
What would James Bond do? - Homeland Stupidity
May 28, 2006
U.S. uses state secrets privilege in two more NSA lawsuits - Homeland Stupidity
Jun 10, 2006
Congress rejects hearings on legality of NSA surveillance - Homeland Stupidity
Jun 12, 2006
On publishing secrets - Homeland Stupidity
Jun 12, 2006
Lawmakers want to hear from Russell Tice - Homeland Stupidity
Jun 17, 2006
A very brief history of TIA - Homeland Stupidity
Jul 23, 2006
State secrets privilege denied in AT&T lawsuit - Homeland Stupidity
Jul 28, 2006
Surveillance bill would reduce court oversight - Homeland Stupidity
Aug 17, 2006
Judge rules NSA surveillance program illegal - Homeland Stupidity
Oct 04, 2006
NSA surveillance OK pending court appeal - Homeland Stupidity
Nov 09, 2006
AT&T surveillance lawsuit still alive - Homeland Stupidity
Nov 28, 2006
Justice inspector general to review terrorist surveillance program - Homeland Stupidity
Jan 18, 2007
Terrorist surveillance program to require warrants - Homeland Stupidity
Jul 10, 2007
The news just keeps breaking - Homeland Stupidity