Comments on: HDTV and HD-DVD encryption not intended for security http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/04/22/hdtv-and-hd-dvd-encryption-not-intended-for-security/ Protect yourself from government gaffes, bureaucratic blunders and incumbent incompetence Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:25:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: devils advocate http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/04/22/hdtv-and-hd-dvd-encryption-not-intended-for-security/#comment-8407 devils advocate Sun, 11 Jun 2006 01:06:10 +0000 http://www.ioerror.us/2006/04/22/hdtv-and-hd-dvd-encryption-not-intended-for-security/#comment-8407 Just because I am doing something illegal, doesn't mean you can break the law to catch me. His point is that you encrypt the urls and if the MIAA or whatever has your url, they obviously decrypted it, therefor breaking the law. But the only problem with that is they would just say that you gave it to them, whcih you had to have done somehow if you expect millions of people to access your site. There is now way to let everyone except the "cartel" know. Just because I am doing something illegal, doesn’t mean you can break the law to catch me. His point is that you encrypt the urls and if the MIAA or whatever has your url, they obviously decrypted it, therefor breaking the law. But the only problem with that is they would just say that you gave it to them, whcih you had to have done somehow if you expect millions of people to access your site. There is now way to let everyone except the “cartel” know.

]]> By: Kevin Fields http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/04/22/hdtv-and-hd-dvd-encryption-not-intended-for-security/#comment-8405 Kevin Fields Sun, 23 Apr 2006 10:43:41 +0000 http://www.ioerror.us/2006/04/22/hdtv-and-hd-dvd-encryption-not-intended-for-security/#comment-8405 How are you going to sue somebody when you're blatantly helping to steal their intellectual property? All that has to be proven is that they're using it to illegally copy ONE piece of property and the case is over. How are you going to sue somebody when you’re blatantly helping to steal their intellectual property? All that has to be proven is that they’re using it to illegally copy ONE piece of property and the case is over.

]]> By: Mark J http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/04/22/hdtv-and-hd-dvd-encryption-not-intended-for-security/#comment-8404 Mark J Sun, 23 Apr 2006 05:53:50 +0000 http://www.ioerror.us/2006/04/22/hdtv-and-hd-dvd-encryption-not-intended-for-security/#comment-8404 Hm, why don't P2P types encrypt their torrent URLs similarly and then lay down some DMCA smackdown when the men in suits start monitoring them? Hm, why don’t P2P types encrypt their torrent URLs similarly and then lay down some DMCA smackdown when the men in suits start monitoring them?

]]> By: Jason http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/04/22/hdtv-and-hd-dvd-encryption-not-intended-for-security/#comment-8403 Jason Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:43:58 +0000 http://www.ioerror.us/2006/04/22/hdtv-and-hd-dvd-encryption-not-intended-for-security/#comment-8403 I knew it was ROT13 in the first two letters. And Anonymous spoiled the fun :(. I knew it was ROT13 in the first two letters.
And Anonymous spoiled the fun :( .

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/04/22/hdtv-and-hd-dvd-encryption-not-intended-for-security/#comment-8402 Anonymous Sat, 22 Apr 2006 06:29:38 +0000 http://www.ioerror.us/2006/04/22/hdtv-and-hd-dvd-encryption-not-intended-for-security/#comment-8402 Don't worry, we have similar DMCA-like anti-decryption provisions here, and a free trade agreement with the USA that takes us 'all the way with the USA' on copyright and IP. How did I decrypt your missive? by using <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROT13" rel="nofollow">ROT13</a> of course. Don’t worry, we have similar DMCA-like anti-decryption provisions here, and a free trade agreement with the USA that takes us ‘all the way with the USA’ on copyright and IP. How did I decrypt your missive? by using ROT13 of course.

]]> By: Michael Hampton http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/04/22/hdtv-and-hd-dvd-encryption-not-intended-for-security/#comment-8401 Michael Hampton Sat, 22 Apr 2006 06:26:52 +0000 http://www.ioerror.us/2006/04/22/hdtv-and-hd-dvd-encryption-not-intended-for-security/#comment-8401 Damnit, Anonymous. You're in Australia; how am I supposed to sue you? :) At least come back and tell everybody how you did it. :) Damnit, Anonymous. You’re in Australia; how am I supposed to sue you? :)

At least come back and tell everybody how you did it. :)

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/04/22/hdtv-and-hd-dvd-encryption-not-intended-for-security/#comment-8400 Anonymous Sat, 22 Apr 2006 06:15:11 +0000 http://www.ioerror.us/2006/04/22/hdtv-and-hd-dvd-encryption-not-intended-for-security/#comment-8400 In 2001, the cartel introduced HDCP, or High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection, a security measure intended to protect digital content as it’s transmitted between HD-capable digital devices, such as newer HDTV and HD-DVD or Blu-Ray players. The problem is that it isn’t very secure at all, and in fact is fairly easy to break. In fact, it wasn’t intended as real security in the first place; it was designed to allow the music and movie industries to file more lawsuits. Ed Felten of Freedom to Tinker has an excellent four-part series posted this week about HDCP. (1, 2, 3, 4) The flaws in HDCP security were actually designed in to the system from the start. That’s right, Hollywood wanted the system to be insecure. They were never interested in providing real protection for digital content, but instead to protect their cartel. Under the system as designed, anybody who wants to build a television set, DVD player, or anything else that does pretty much anything with digital video has to get a license for HDCP. If they build an unlicensed device, they can be sued under the DMCA. The obvious implication of this is that consumer choice is limited. Technology which would otherwise exist is never developed because of the licensing required. Fewer products come to market, and those that do come to market are more expensive. HDCP adds as much as $100 to the cost of each HDTV set, for instance. Less innovation takes place. Even Microsoft must bow, kiss the ring, and pay up, if they want to continue to include DVD playback capability in Windows. In the meantime, HDCP is expected to be broken within the next year or two. All that’s needed are 40 devices with HDCP built in to them and a little bit of time. Once that happens, every HDCP equipped device is permanently compromised. Some security. Via Electronic Frontier Foundation. In 2001, the cartel introduced HDCP, or High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection, a security measure intended to protect digital content as it’s transmitted between HD-capable digital devices, such as newer HDTV and HD-DVD or Blu-Ray players. The problem is that it isn’t very secure at all, and in fact is fairly easy to break. In fact, it wasn’t intended as real security in the first place; it was designed to allow the music and movie industries to file more lawsuits.

Ed Felten of Freedom to Tinker has an excellent four-part series posted this week about HDCP. (1, 2, 3, 4)

The flaws in HDCP security were actually designed in to the system from the start. That’s right, Hollywood wanted the system to be insecure. They were never interested in providing real protection for digital content, but instead to protect their cartel.

Under the system as designed, anybody who wants to build a television set, DVD player, or anything else that does pretty much anything with digital video has to get a license for HDCP. If they build an unlicensed device, they can be sued under the DMCA.

The obvious implication of this is that consumer choice is limited. Technology which would otherwise exist is never developed because of the licensing required. Fewer products come to market, and those that do come to market are more expensive. HDCP adds as much as $100 to the cost of each HDTV set, for instance. Less innovation takes place. Even Microsoft must bow, kiss the ring, and pay up, if they want to continue to include DVD playback capability in Windows.

In the meantime, HDCP is expected to be broken within the next year or two. All that’s needed are 40 devices with HDCP built in to them and a little bit of time. Once that happens, every HDCP equipped device is permanently compromised. Some security.

Via Electronic Frontier Foundation.

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