Comments on: Please spy on us, say Americans http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/05/12/please-spy-on-us-say-americans/ Protect yourself from government gaffes, bureaucratic blunders and incumbent incompetence Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:25:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: UK terror plot disrupted; airport security heightened - Homeland Stupidity http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/05/12/please-spy-on-us-say-americans/#comment-8630 UK terror plot disrupted; airport security heightened - Homeland Stupidity Thu, 10 Aug 2006 16:13:34 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/05/12/please-spy-on-us-say-americans/#comment-8630 [...] Advanced targeting tools means data-mining. And we all know how well that’s worked in the past. [...] [...] Advanced targeting tools means data-mining. And we all know how well that’s worked in the past. [...]

]]> By: Below The Beltway » Blog Archive » Carnival Of Liberty XLV http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/05/12/please-spy-on-us-say-americans/#comment-8629 Below The Beltway » Blog Archive » Carnival Of Liberty XLV Tue, 16 May 2006 11:28:54 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/05/12/please-spy-on-us-say-americans/#comment-8629 [...] Next up are a trio of articles about last week’s revelation about the NSA’s telephone call data mining. First, Homeland Stupidity examines the reaction, or lack thereof, of the American public to this latest invasion of privacy. Then, Punny Money argues that we now all have the right to sue the telephone company. Finally, though it was written before the NSA story came out, Michael at Homeland Stupidity writes about the relationship between privacy and individual liberty. [...] [...] Next up are a trio of articles about last week’s revelation about the NSA’s telephone call data mining. First, Homeland Stupidity examines the reaction, or lack thereof, of the American public to this latest invasion of privacy. Then, Punny Money argues that we now all have the right to sue the telephone company. Finally, though it was written before the NSA story came out, Michael at Homeland Stupidity writes about the relationship between privacy and individual liberty. [...]

]]> By: BellSouth denies giving NSA phone call records - Homeland Stupidity http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/05/12/please-spy-on-us-say-americans/#comment-8628 BellSouth denies giving NSA phone call records - Homeland Stupidity Tue, 16 May 2006 08:03:20 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/05/12/please-spy-on-us-say-americans/#comment-8628 [...] Please spy on us, say Americans [...] [...] Please spy on us, say Americans [...]

]]> By: staci http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/05/12/please-spy-on-us-say-americans/#comment-8627 staci Sat, 13 May 2006 15:31:34 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/05/12/please-spy-on-us-say-americans/#comment-8627 i think if nothing else, this has illustrated the problem to lots of us who dont think about it. and Toronto is sounding better & better. :) --hello nsa people, yes hes my roommate, and yes, i agree with him.-- i think if nothing else, this has illustrated the problem to lots of us who dont think about it.
and Toronto is sounding better & better. :)
–hello nsa people, yes hes my roommate, and yes, i agree with him.–

]]> By: Mark Greco http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/05/12/please-spy-on-us-say-americans/#comment-8626 Mark Greco Sat, 13 May 2006 02:35:29 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/05/12/please-spy-on-us-say-americans/#comment-8626 I agree with you completely. I'm 26 years old and I read 1984 and Brave New World back to back about 3 or 4 years ago. It just amazed me how similar to our world today that both of these books written so long ago were. Some days I want to just swallow the blue pill and be put back in the Matrix, but now that I know what I know it's impossible to turn my back on the facts and go about my life as if Big Brother isn't watching. Years ago I've even gone as far as to say that I am confident that they have the storage capacity and the means to record and archive every cellphone conversation that has ever been had. Though these conversations would not be legal or constitutional evidence in court (until they piss on the constitution again and make it legal anyhow) they would be very good tools to look up and listen to any conversation had between any "suspect" and whoever they talk to and whoever they talk to and so on and so on. Of course I was always met with some comment about how I'm crazy or some stupid joke about Big Brother watching me followed by giggles. Needless to say, I'm not the most fun guy to bring to a party anymore. I'm convinced that if we're hearing about the databases, than that's just the least of what they're actually doing already. I believe that within the next few years we will come to know much more about what unconstitutional activities are going on behind closed doors all in the name of Security. And the illegal wiretapping will seem like childs play when we get wind of it. The only reason that we all know about the phone crap now is because they know that it's too late for any one of us to do a damn thing about it. We can't stop using the phones for the very same reasons that we can't stop using gas, no matter how high the price. I like your "country jumping the shark" reference. If Ben Franklin had Happy Days to watch back in his day he may have used that instead of what I believe is the greatest quote by any American man in history. One which, sadly it seems, has been all but forgotten... and most likely, not even tought in schools anymore. They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty. I suppose that quote could very well be followed up by two other great quotes by the $100.00 man himself: This will be the best security for maintaining our liberties. A nation of well-informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins. & Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters. Read that quote and look around you.... I think we all may have jumped that shark not too long after the Fonz did...... Next stops... Sodom and Gomorra. Thanks for keeping the seat warm for the Anti Christ George W. I agree with you completely. I’m 26 years old and I read 1984 and Brave New World back to back about 3 or 4 years ago. It just amazed me how similar to our world today that both of these books written so long ago were. Some days I want to just swallow the blue pill and be put back in the Matrix, but now that I know what I know it’s impossible to turn my back on the facts and go about my life as if Big Brother isn’t watching. Years ago I’ve even gone as far as to say that I am confident that they have the storage capacity and the means to record and archive every cellphone conversation that has ever been had. Though these conversations would not be legal or constitutional evidence in court (until they piss on the constitution again and make it legal anyhow) they would be very good tools to look up and listen to any conversation had between any “suspect” and whoever they talk to and whoever they talk to and so on and so on.

Of course I was always met with some comment about how I’m crazy or some stupid joke about Big Brother watching me followed by giggles. Needless to say, I’m not the most fun guy to bring to a party anymore.

I’m convinced that if we’re hearing about the databases, than that’s just the least of what they’re actually doing already. I believe that within the next few years we will come to know much more about what unconstitutional activities are going on behind closed doors all in the name of Security. And the illegal wiretapping will seem like childs play when we get wind of it. The only reason that we all know about the phone crap now is because they know that it’s too late for any one of us to do a damn thing about it. We can’t stop using the phones for the very same reasons that we can’t stop using gas, no matter how high the price.

I like your “country jumping the shark” reference. If Ben Franklin had Happy Days to watch back in his day he may have used that instead of what I believe is the greatest quote by any American man in history. One which, sadly it seems, has been all but forgotten… and most likely, not even tought in schools anymore.

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty.

I suppose that quote could very well be followed up by two other great quotes by the $100.00 man himself:

This will be the best security for maintaining our liberties. A nation of well-informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins.

&

Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters.

Read that quote and look around you…. I think we all may have jumped that shark not too long after the Fonz did……

Next stops… Sodom and Gomorra. Thanks for keeping the seat warm for the Anti Christ George W.

]]> By: AMERICAN FUTURE - Trying to make sense of a world in turmoil » The Left Says It Knows Better http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/05/12/please-spy-on-us-say-americans/#comment-8625 AMERICAN FUTURE - Trying to make sense of a world in turmoil » The Left Says It Knows Better Sat, 13 May 2006 02:15:20 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/05/12/please-spy-on-us-say-americans/#comment-8625 [...] Homeland Stupidity avers that "Perhaps the most disturbing thing is the virtual non-reaction from the American public. It seems that most people don't care if Big Brother watches them." [...] [...] Homeland Stupidity avers that “Perhaps the most disturbing thing is the virtual non-reaction from the American public. It seems that most people don’t care if Big Brother watches them.” [...]

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