The 212-796-0735 mystery

May 31, 2006 @ 202 Comments

Back in the days of the Cold War, spies found ingenious and unusual ways to communicate with each other, hiding their communications in plain sight, whether encrypted or not. For instance, an intelligence agent (spy) might contact his case officer (handler) by placing an ad in the personals section of the local newspaper. This practice, it seems, continues today.

On or around May 8, the following personal ad appeared on the Internet classified ad site Craigslist. (It has since been removed.)

For mein fraulein

Mein Fraulein, I haven’t heard from you in a while. Won’t you
call me? 212 //// 796 //// 0735

If you actually called the number, up until a couple of days ago you would have heard this prerecorded message (MP3). It’s a head scratcher to keep you National Security Agency analysts occupied in your spare time. Each block of numbers is repeated twice; but below I have transcribed them only once for clarity.

Group 415
01305 60510 12079 04606 50100
93000 08203 90130 94069 01207
81080 17028 01706 90220 73038
01401 70150 15073 00402 00680
12013 12510 00540 04091 01401
30150 86022 09608 10660 02082
05507 00020 00000 02208 30290
08022 01200 40710 13065 02709
40190 29014 02200 80020 11083
07300 30260 19000 00700 00000
86

You used to hear broadcasts not unlike this on shortwave radio all the time, stations which broadcast nothing but numbers all day. Nobody has yet come forward with an answer as to what exactly these stations were broadcasting, or to whom, or what was the point of the messages. If anyone does know, they likely can’t say because it’s classified information.

On or around May 12, Craigslist pulled the ad, but the number remained up and running, and someone tipped off our friends at 2600 Magazine. Its editor Emmanuel Goldstein mentioned the number on the May 24 episode (MP3) of the WBAI radio show Off The Hook. After that, it was flooded with calls from aspiring phone phreaks and other curiosity seekers, and that’s when some more of the details behind the number began coming out, through brute force, as it were.

The number is a VoIP setup from a small provider yet to be identified, but the wholesaler is a company called RNK Telecom. The account was prepaid, and the flood of calls after the radio show quickly depleted the account balance; callers over Memorial Day weekend would have heard a message (MP3) saying your account balance was too low. Now the number gives nothing but a busy signal.

Many questions remain, of course, now that the number seems to be no longer functioning. Who put the ad on Craigslist? What is the encrypted message? Is this all some sort of elaborate prank? Or could it be a viral marketing scheme of some type?

The question which most interests me, though, is what does the message mean? The Craigslist posting is typical of how intelligence agents might communicate in hostile countries where they are actively trying to evade the country’s intelligence services. The message at that phone number, though, seems like an easier avenue of attack for this particular problem, at least right now.

The first thing I notice is that it contains an unusually high number of zeros. And that’s just about where my cryptanalytic skills end. Anybody else want to take a crack at it?

Update: Ryan Singel (of Wired) thinks it’s just two young cryptanalysts in love, “sending love notes and taunting Mossad, the NSA and the phone phreakers at the same time.” He also points to some links indicating those shortwave numbers stations are still around. Go take a listen.

Update: There is now a second phone numbers station message for you to puzzle over, too.

Update: And now there’s a third phone numbers station as well.

202 Comments → “The 212-796-0735 mystery”


  1. Matt

    May 31, 2006

    It doesn’t always have to be the US Government… you never know, but I am not so sure they would be using this method to communicate. But, it could definitely be someone with something to hide.


  2. Michael Hampton

    May 31, 2006

    The problem is the Craigslist posting. It was clearly intended to be received by someone in New York City. It’s also clearly not modern American English, though the writer seems fluent. And it probably didn’t matter much to the sender whether other people called the number or not, as the message clearly isn’t intelligible to the rest of us, it was a prepaid VoIP account, and would have expired sooner or later anyway.


  3. Charles Stricklin

    May 31, 2006


  4. Dyna Kelly

    May 31, 2006


  5. ralph

    May 31, 2006

    I hear numbers stations on shortwave all the time. 4880 kHz is one frequency that comes to mind, mainly because it’s in the middle of a broadcast band that I scan regularly.


  6. Martin Thompson

    Jun 01, 2006

    These shenanigans are probably part of the ongoing influence of The Conet Project, the completely insane CD box set of Numbers Stations. Or it could be something really very real-world and evil.

  7. Jun 01, 2006


  8. Rob

    Jun 01, 2006

    There is a new posting on Craiglist at

    Date: 2006-05-29, 7:26PM PDT

    Mein Fraulein,

    You must call me again soon.

    ///415///704///0402///


  9. David Stephenson

    Jun 01, 2006

    Michael:

    As best I can make out, that translates to “What’s the frequency, Kenneth?”
    –David

  10. Jun 01, 2006


  11. Dylan

    Jun 01, 2006

    As i was looking over this number it occured to me that i have seen all of those sets of numbers in another place. I quickly then discovered that every five digit grouping in the message is also a five digit grouping in huge huge huge prime numbers. For an example this is a large prime number. I have yet to correlations but I will be working on a program to help determine any further interworkings in this message.


  12. Michael Hampton

    Jun 01, 2006

    Dylan, is the same true of the second message?

    (I also fixed your comment.)


  13. Dylan

    Jun 01, 2006

    The same is true for the second message, it also contains all five digit prime number groupings. Thanks for fixing my message. Im working on locations of the number now as well as possible location connections??? What do you think it could be?


  14. Michael Hampton

    Jun 01, 2006

    Well, once you’re talking Mersenne primes, then it means the crypto is getting somewhat serious. So we can probably rule out pranksters — unless of course the NSA is playing a prank on all of us, as Ryan and David seem to think. :) This is almost certainly not part of the rodent revolution.


  15. Dylan

    Jun 01, 2006

    I am now starting to feel there are two different choices.

    1.It would be very easy for this message to be impossible to decode or

    2. It doesn’t use any kind of private key and is similar to that of a childs “code” of numbers being swaped for letters or in this case groupings


  16. Laurence Martin

    Jun 01, 2006

    I listened to both mp3 recordings. It’s interesting to note that each spoken number is obviously recorded separately and spliced together to get the number groupings. This was not someone just sitting in front of a microphone and reading number groups; each number is an edit.


  17. Laurence Martin

    Jun 01, 2006

    By the way, there is a discussion going on at SDMB of this topic, which is where I found this site.


  18. Michael Hampton

    Jun 01, 2006

    Wonderful. Don’t forget to check out the second message as well.


  19. Navicerts

    Jun 01, 2006

    most any 6 digit number you can think of is part of that sequence. visit the page and do a find and type in random stuff.

    my guess is you googled the numbers themselves and came up with the story you told based off the fact that that page was your #1 hit.


  20. Navicerts

    Jun 01, 2006

    typo: 5 digit number


  21. Justin

    Jun 01, 2006

    There are 810,790 number groups in that file, and there are only 100,000 5 digit numbers, so except for

    13015 17386 17826 18452 21364 22053 24971 28471 32765 36401 38200 47181 49993 50345 50412 51647 52187 54921 57388 58626 58722 73184 79040 84485 87345 88829 94101 95224

    every 5 digit group appears multiple times.

    try again? :-)


  22. anonymous

    Jun 01, 2006

    415 is an area code. i did a trace route on the RNK voip provider and guess the area code of the host master 415. on the second one the area code is 415. the following is the result of the rnk thing: http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois/?ip=!NET-216-143-132-0-1&server=whois.arin.net


  23. E

    Jun 01, 2006

    #13:

    The reason for the edits is so the person can not be identified by voice. This is the audio equivalent of cutting letters out of newspapers and magazines to create a ransom note.


  24. Max

    Jun 01, 2006

    Another interesting thing:

    Google has it cached, according to a search for “mein fraulein”:

    http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22Mein+fraulein%22

    But when you view the cached version, it’s not there:


  25. Anthony

    Jun 01, 2006

    It actually looks like blocks of 7bit numbers… Hello people, didn’t anyone notice the number groups are actually 3 digits long? Using the exerpt above:

    013 056 051 012 079 046 065 010 093 000
    082 039 013 094 069 012 078 108 017 028
    017 069 022 073 038 014 017 015 015 073
    004 020 068 012 013 125 100 054 004 091
    014 013 015 086 022 096 081 066 002 082
    055 070 002 000 000 022 083 029 008 022
    012 004 071 013 065 027 094 019 029 014
    022 008 002 011 083 073 003 026 019 000
    007 000 000 086

    No number exceeds 127 and a few 000 blocks in there… Its probablly a binary file? encoded in 7bit? Didn’t look at the full file, but this seems WAY to common of a pattern to miss…


  26. Tomas

    Jun 01, 2006

    The code should first have all the spaces removed, then be broken into three digit groups, like so (for the original message):

    Group 415
    013 056 051 012 079 046 065 010 093 000 082 039 013 094 069 012 078
    108
    017 028 017 069 022 073 038 014 017 015 015 073 004 020 068 012 013
    125
    100
    054 004 091 014 013 015 086 022 096 081 066 002 082 055 070 002 000 000 022 083 029 008 022 012 004 071 013 065 027 094 019 029 014 022 008 002 011 083 073 003 026 019 000 007 000 000 086

    Enjoy!
    :o )


  27. anonymous

    Jun 01, 2006

    what about the group 415. seems to be a decoding thing? maby key 415 or something.


  28. anonymous

    Jun 01, 2006

    another whois querry. the domain of RNK’s parrent company is broadwing.com.a whois shows its registered to a John Haynes. this is also the name of the first governer of connecticut. finally the contact address, its located in texas as is the 512 area code. perhaps there is a secret data center in texas by the CIA or something.


  29. Max

    Jun 01, 2006

    I just have to say for the record that, especially in the current climate, this is not necessarily late-night-alone-in-front-of-the-computer listening – at least not for me.

    I’m not given to paranoia, or even being easily spooked, but I listened to the first ten seconds of the initial MP3, and I had to shut it off after about 8 digits, ’cause it just scared the crap outta me. Anyone else have the same reaction?


  30. anonymous

    Jun 01, 2006

    it had the same effect on me. i didnt listen to it all.its scary.


  31. RevPsilocybe

    Jun 01, 2006

    The pattern of the pitches is what interested me more. Same with the into music.


  32. manus

    Jun 01, 2006

    Anthony & Tomas seem like the closest.

    See my comment here:
    http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/06/01/another-phone-numbers-station-415-704-0402/#comment-11009

    Feels like a code/puzzle enthusiast is putting on some kind of mysterious hunt!

    -manus


  33. Tomas

    Jun 02, 2006

    Not that it helps at all, but here’s a simple way to convert ASCII numbers to text, with the ‘first message’ numbers entered:

    Group 415

    document.write(String.fromCharCode(013,056,051,012,079,046,065,010,093,000,082,039,013,094,069,012,078,108,017,028,017,069,022,073,038,014,017,015,015,073,004,020,068,012,013,125,100,
    054,004,091,014,013,015,086,022,096,081,066,002,082,055,070,002,000,000,022,083,029,008,022,012,004,071,013,065,027,094,019,029,014,022,008,002,011,083,073,003,026,019,000,007,000,000,086));

    I suspect a ‘key’ is needed to offset the numbers correctly.

    That for someone else to fiddle with.

    ;o)

  34. Jun 02, 2006


  35. Pete

    Jun 02, 2006

    Just tried it – still get nonsense though. Even tried looping through all 128 possible offsets for each character – still no dice.


  36. manus

    Jun 02, 2006

    It’s also not unlikely that each message uses a different key/encoding scheme, based either on the postings’ contents (e.g., possibly something to do with the number and position of slashes in the phone number?), or the city name, or the date/time of the posting, or a pre-defined one-time pad, or some combination of the above, etc., etc., etc… or maybe it’s much simpler?

    Or this could all be someone testing a really slow covert channel file transfer application? ;] So many possibilities, though even if it’s a hoax, I’m sure there’s still something to figure out, and there’s such nasty weather outside…

    -manus


  37. fred

    Jun 02, 2006

    The speech quality is peculiar. Concatenative synthesis (splicing prerecorded bits together) is easy, and easy to do better than this example. However, each digit seems to be very very different from the other. This in turn suggests that it is done to facilitate automatic digit recognition at the receiver. So the listener is probably not a paunchy guy in a sogggy raincoat, but a simple speech recognition program.


  38. Handyman

    Jun 02, 2006

    The frequencies of the codes do not seem to be random. First of all, only 48 out of 128 numbers are actually used, while the message contains 84 numbers. The chances of exactly 6 0′s occurring in a sequence of 84 randomly chosen numbers in the [0,127] range is equal to

    ((84 over 6) * 127^78) / 128^84

    Then the chance that *any* number occurs 6 times is 128 times that, and this computes to about 0.6% chance. The chance that any number occurs 5 times in such a sequence is about 5%, but it happens to _two_ numbers in this sequence, which again has a very low chance of happening. So this message is definitely not random. That also means that it probably doesn’t use a one-time pad encryption or some complicated cryptosystem, as such cryptosystems are usually designed to yield random-looking results.

    Here’s a histogram sorted by decreasing frequency:

    000 6
    022 5
    013 5
    012 4
    002 3
    004 3
    014 3
    015 3
    017 3
    073 3
    008 2
    019 2
    029 2
    065 2
    069 2
    082 2
    083 2
    086 2
    056 1
    051 1
    079 1
    046 1
    010 1
    093 1
    039 1
    094 1
    078 1
    108 1
    028 1
    038 1
    020 1
    068 1
    125 1
    100 1
    054 1
    091 1
    096 1
    081 1
    066 1
    055 1
    070 1
    071 1
    027 1
    094 1
    011 1
    003 1
    026 1
    007 1

    No way that this maps to characters directly, as there are 48 different numbers involved. However, we may be able to get started by looking at the high-frequency numbers. Happy trying!


  39. For mein fraulein

    Jun 02, 2006

    For mein fraulein

    Mein Frualein, I have not heard from you
    in a while. Won’t you call me?
    //// 61414 //// 464 //// 363

    Group 012
    3464 1016 1513 7754 5870
    5489 2683 0117 4473 3885
    6105 0762 0761 2561 1161
    3958 9038 6603 3817 6000
    7416 2292 3735 1449 7151
    3


  40. Dragon

    Jun 02, 2006

    Umm ok.


  41. Johan Louwers

    Jun 02, 2006

    Anyone ever thought about the possibility that this could be generated ‘scatter’ to distract “other agencies” from something else going one? It is believed that short-wave radio number stations are/where also used to broadcast scatter to keep the other party busy with breaking codes that where false and could never be solved.

    On the other hand I am very curios if this is a real message and if we are able to break the code.


  42. zed

    Jun 02, 2006

    For mein fraulein looks like sqrt(12) – Ie, ciphertext ^ Group.


  43. zed

    Jun 02, 2006

    oops! I meant cipher text & group…


  44. NSA

    Jun 02, 2006

    Ran this through the old decoder and got this:
    “drink more ovaltine”


  45. Reko

    Jun 02, 2006

    I’m not a cryptogropher or anything, or even a mathemetician, so these are all wild guesses:

    a) What about octal?
    b) What if the significancy of these numbers is in which number prime number it is?

    i.e., if the 6th prime number (starting from 1) is broadcasted, perhaps it signifies ’6′ rather than the number itself.


  46. Rob

    Jun 02, 2006

    @Reko – Probably not octal because there are 9′s in the code. Also, it looked like hex to me 013 -> 0×13, but there are no letters A through F.


  47. Johan Louwers

    Jun 02, 2006

    For Mein Fraulein

    Reply to: pers-167168282@craigslist.org
    Date: 2006-06-02, 7:21AM EDT

    Mein Fraulein,

    I am anxious to speak with you.

    ///617///973///3463///

    Can someone in the US please check the number?


  48. Johan Louwers

    Jun 02, 2006

    Number seams to be a prank… Found it on slashdot… good discussion there by the way: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=187276&threshold=0&commentsort=0&mode=thread&pid=15451631#15451779


  49. Mapes

    Jun 02, 2006

    Just curious if anyone has thought about the intro and exit music. Perhaps that could be part of the keying material. Perhaps the timing signiture or the length of the music in seconds is part of the key. Otherwise why have the music at all?

  50. Jun 02, 2006


  51. Sim

    Jun 02, 2006

    Sure this is not one of the Lost things? A secret message from the Hanso Foundation?

    But seriously — The music bed sounds familiar for some reason. Also, would an intelligence agency actually bother to fade the music in and out? Good production values on secret messages these days. And one other observation on the audio: every number is well pronounced except for “three” with sounds like the letter “p”. Normally, I would say it is the speaker’s accent, but the “r” in “group 415″ is also well pronounced.


  52. Tad

    Jun 02, 2006

    I believe the music has something to do with it, although at this time I have no idea what. Perhaps it’s a decoy, so anyone calling this number at random will hear the music, assume it’s some info-recording and hang up, but then there’d be no need for an outro, so the music is probably part of it.

    Nobody has yet mentioned that the “speaker” is (to my ears, anyhow) actually different people, a different voice per number.

    And what the hell is with the “zero” speaker, that’s just a creepy sounding “zero”.


  53. Simon Mason

    Jun 02, 2006

    Hi there,
    I am the author of “Secret Signals” a book about short wave radio number stations and this website:

    http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/page30.html

    This phone “message” is an obvious fake. It is an attempt to emulate a number station, but it falls flat on several counts. For a start, the music intro would not be used as a real intro, it is not long enough to facilitate tuning, nor distinctive enough.

    Then we get “Group 415″. In the number station world this means that 415 groups will follow. In fact, only 49 groups are sent, not including the “00000″ which just means “end”. Also, each group contains a zero – real numbers are random.

    The cut up “ransom note” style is obviously based on this station:

    http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/page352.htm


  54. acoward

    Jun 02, 2006

    It is a phone message, what is fake about it?
    I don’t understand why you would need a distinctive intro to tune into a phone you obviously called correctly. You are applying what you know to a different medium where the rules you are used to don’t really mean anything.
    It is probably a joke/PR stunt but shortwave radio has no bearing on this.


  55. Simon Mason

    Jun 02, 2006

    It is an obvious attempt to mimic a classic number station, but the person who made it doesn’t seem to know the format that these stations use. The use of “Group 415″ would mean that the message is 415 groups long, but it is not.

    This means that the person who made the recording has heard of number stations and has heard somebody saying “Group 25″ or whatever at the start of a transmission, but they don’t understand the meaning of it. All they think is that by shoving “Group xxx” into the clip will make it sound like a genuine number station!

    Other people have tried the same:

    http://www.turbulence.org/Works/sodeoka/

    OK as entertainment, but the messages are meaningless.


  56. crojob

    Jun 03, 2006

    Oh no! Someone is using methods to hide communications! They must be evil and have something to hide — just like all those bastards who put *envelopes* around the letters they send to their family instead of writing it all on a postcard that everyone can see!

    Boy, Craigslist and the rest must be really uptight. Honestly, who cares?


  57. pjw

    Jun 03, 2006

    I do not have an ear for music, therefor would some one care to write down notes to the intro music and the note it is played in.

    I was curious and thought it might be relevant.


  58. jason

    Jun 03, 2006

    Has anybody considered whether this is a “Perplex City” clue from the trading card game. I don’t play it, but I’ve read about it. Kinda interesting concept:


  59. jason

    Jun 03, 2006

    http://www.perplexcity.com/

    check out the game here. i don’t know if this is the answer, though


  60. JP

    Jun 03, 2006

    Am I the only one who feels dumber after reading this?

  61. Jun 03, 2006


  62. orangemarmalade

    Jun 03, 2006

    maybe the ‘Group 415′ at the start is a decoding mechanism…group numbers in groups of 4, then 1, then 5 and see what happens


  63. hermann

    Jun 03, 2006

    Maybe this is relevant?

    013 056 051 012 079 046 065 m
    010 093 000 082 039 013 094 e
    069 012 078 108 017 028 017 i
    069 022 073 038 014 017 015 n
    015 073 004 020 068 012 013 f
    125 100 054 004 091 014 013 r
    015 086 022 096 081 066 002 a
    082 055 070 002 000 000 022 u
    083 029 008 022 012 004 071 l
    013 065 027 094 019 029 014 e
    022 008 002 011 083 073 003 i
    026 019 000 007 000 000 086 n
    7 9 6 0 7 3 5


  64. kitsune fox

    Jun 03, 2006

    Any one remember the old way some comps connected to the internet? you would put a phone on a thing that hooked up to your comp! and the tones would tell the comp what to do. But this is way b4 my time. but tones tell phones and computers with modems what to do. i think maby this is to connect a message between two peoples computers.

    also, If you remove all the numbers but the 0′s and 1′s then convert them from binary, you get ‘Â¥RAT˻”„’ which can be seen as ‘VRATA’ which means religious vow in sanskrit. Or in some slavic languages VRATA means DOOR. I also see
    “A RAT” due to the fact there are a lot of “A”s and btween spaces the word “RAT”.


  65. freakyq

    Jun 03, 2006

    The recording is freaky the 3 sounds like a speak and spell, It did freak me out when the music stopped. It could be an automated voice recognition system program for a computer somewhere, or kinda like a barcode reader. who knows good 1 tho


  66. Bob Plant

    Jun 03, 2006

    This is a clue in the LOST Experience Game (ABC TV Show).


  67. nick

    Jun 03, 2006

    google search with government an 415 http://freegovinfo.info/node/415


  68. Anonymous

    Jun 03, 2006

    Federal Reserve Bank of Boston

    On December 23, 1913, the Federal Reserve Act became law, and within a year the 12 Federal Reserve Banks were open for business. The Boston Fed, along with the other 11 Federal
    [Quote]
    Mein Fraulein,

    I am anxious to speak with you.

    ///617///973///3463///

    Can someone in the US please check the number?
    [End Quote]

    Here is what google comes up with…

    Federal Reserve Bank of Boston

    On December 23, 1913, the Federal Reserve Act became law, and within a year the 12 Federal Reserve Banks were open for business. The Boston Fed, along with the other 11 Federal Reserve Banks nationwide and the Board of Governors in Washington, D.C., make up our nation’s central bank. The Boston Fed serves the First Federal Reserve District that includes the six New England states: Connecticut (excluding Fairfield County), Massachusetts, Maine, New Hampshire, Rhode Island and Vermont.

    600 Atlantic Avenue
    Boston, MA 02210
    617-973-3000
    617-973-3463 fax


  69. Eddie Edd Banger Of Bangor

    Jun 03, 2006

    W00p yer a damn freakin retard.


  70. Wes W

    Jun 03, 2006

    A few interesting observations: First, does anyone think that it’s possible that the number of words (or letters) written in the message of the craigslist post give the person (if one exists) a way to read this? Similar to the way authentication codes work when launching missles. For example the number of words in the message originally equals 14. Maybe the person who may find this can look at that information – and might possibly correlate it with the city it was posted in – and then apply that all to the encrypted message to actually get the full message. The reason that sticks out is the way it was worded, obviously no one is trying to find a long lost friend, but if they were, wouldn’t they put more discriptive info like, remember me we met at the hot dog stand, or hey it’s Rick, call me.

    Second, the music intro does remind me of a hidden code, in an unsuspecting body of looped music. The very defined, “tones” that stick out are very clear and a person that has certain criteria to look for may actually derive meaning for the code, for example it may be a key allowing the person to know what a certain sequence of numbers may translate into with letters.

    Third, all of the above observations may be coupled with the receiving person having in their possesion a document with many different messages written on it, each message may be linked to a number (one of the numbers in the message), different people may have different “groups” of messages, or the one person may have a large document that is seperated by “groups”.

    This is a non-mathematical, low tech way of thinking however. And after all, it may just be a case study, or material for a college student’s psychology thesis on how viral marketing can affect the mind… Who knows. But if anyone would like to compare and contrast ideas, comment away!


  71. Zm3r3

    Jun 03, 2006

    Has anyone thought that ‘Group 415′ might singal a specific text? Maybe a book or paper? And the digits are a page-word-letter code?


  72. matt

    Jun 03, 2006

    I realized that a 5-bit binary number is the minimum for encoding a letter in the alphabet: 2^4=16


  73. Wes W

    Jun 03, 2006

    A bit of post script: If it is the third scenario, then it may be pointless to even attempt to decipher the meaning (which may have been the point, and beauty of the whole thing). The scenario would have gone down as such: Person A is given a large document, and it contains hundreds upon hundreds of messages – some may be off the wall and mean nothing – some may have certain actions or instructions. Person B informs A that on a given date he should search for the words “Mein Fraulein” on craigs list, and he should be prepared to search in every city. On that day, Person A finds the post, and notes the city. He then calls the number, he knows it is authentic by listening to the opening music, as Person B allowed him to hear it prior to leaving, and he was enlightened to the defining characteristics of the sound loop. He then references the group number in his document, and uses the length (in letters) of the original post to reference the correct string of numbers. Once he has found this, he can find the specific pre-determined message, and then he adds the city to the open space in the message to actually complete the message.

    Low-tech way of Public/Private key.

    Just a thought, and now I’m depressed for actually taking this much time to consider this.


  74. matt

    Jun 03, 2006

    I realized that a 5-bit binary number is the minimum for encoding a letter in the alphabet: 2^4=16 less than 26 letters less than 2^5=32. Because of this I attempted to convert each 5-digit sequence into a binary number. The method I used was to replace every number but 0 with 1′s (1-9 are just noise). The total number of unique sequences after this transformation is less than 26. Some of them are higher than 26 in value though, so it’s not the trivial assignment of a=00000, b=00001, etc.

    Please double check for correctness:

    01101 10110 11011 01101 10100
    11000 01101 10110 11011 01101
    11010 11011 01101 10110 11011
    01101 10110 11011 00101 00110
    11011 11110 00110 01011 01101
    10110 11011 01101 10110 01011
    01101 00010 00000 01101 10110
    01011 01100 10110 11011 01101
    10110 11011 01100 10010 11011
    01100 10110 11000 00100 00000

    Notice the repetition of the pattern 01101 10110 11011 01101 and especially the subpattern 01101 10110 11011.

    Ideas:
    1) 01101 starts each row
    2) 01101 ***** ***** 01101 is quite frequent… maybe they serve as containers for something. reminds me of HTML tags
    3) maybe the group number actually starts the series of 5-digit sequences and the final two digits finish up the numbers (41501 30560 51012… 00086)

    I suggest assigning letters to each unique sequence and playing cryptograph, and maybe try out other methods of converting to binary, though the patterns that show up under my method seem suspicious.


  75. BM

    Jun 03, 2006

    What’s with all the hoopla. This is just Art Bell placing a personal ad.


  76. gstahl

    Jun 03, 2006

    If it’s not a prank or a marketing campaign (way to complicated for that) it’s a CIA/NSA recruitment campaign. I bet the one that cracks it gets a call from someone…

    I find it extremely unlikely that any serious covert communication would be on Craigslist, that would be just stupid ’cause you know people are going to look into it.


  77. w00p

    Jun 03, 2006

    Convert your numbers to letters, use mein fraulein as a key and slap it all into a DES matrix, sorted


  78. Henrik Spuur Hansen

    Jun 03, 2006

    I know I’m feeding minds which probably are unhealthy to feed ;-) , but the intro music is:

    Group: A-Ha
    Album: Minor Earth Major Sky
    Song: Little Black Heart (track 2 of 13)

    So I’m with Ryan Singel on this one. This might be the very first mating-call of the rare species “Homo Cryptoanalytica” ever recorded.

    The rest of you guys can now begin to seek interesting ways to offset the digits into the lyrics of the song. And btw.: it’s is a very nice album, so go buy it.

    Happy Hunting…


  79. Henrik Spuur Hansen

    Jun 03, 2006

    I know I’m feeding minds which probably are unhealthy to feed ;-) , but the intro music is:

    Group: A-Ha
    Album: Minor Earth Major Sky
    Song: Little Black Heart (track 2 of 13)

    So I’m with Ryan Singel on this one. This might be the very first mating-call of the rare species “Homo Cryptoanalytica” ever recorded.

    The rest of you guys can now begin to seek interesting ways to offset the digits into the lyrics of the song. And btw.: it’s is a very nice album, so go buy it.

    Happy Hunting, though it sounds like w00p cracked it…


  80. You're not amateur codebreakers

    Jun 03, 2006

    People. If this is spy chatter, it wouldn’t be very hard for them to encrypt this with an algorithm like RSA. And if that’s the case, it is nothing but a waste of time to sit here looking for “patterns” you see in the numbers. You would need the key to decrypt it; either that key is part of the telephone number, which is unlikely because then anyone could use it, or the key is private information for the two communicators. Do you really think that you can sit in your living room and crack an RSA encrypted message?


  81. Rance Muhamitz

    Jun 03, 2006

    I’m using the chicken to measure it!

  82. Jun 03, 2006


  83. Rance Muhamitz

    Jun 03, 2006

    I’m using the chicken to measure it.


  84. Max

    Jun 03, 2006

    OK – someone asked, so….

    Musically – if the root (the key of the song, AND the first line of the melody) is 1, then the melody sequence is as follows:

    1562123 5621235321
    562123 5621235321

    The last 3 in the first and third sequences might be perceived as doubles, which would make it

    15621233 5621235321
    5621233 5621235321

    Broken into bars:

    15621
    23
    5621
    2353
    215621
    23
    5621
    235321

    Lastly, the long 3′s might be perceived as doubles, making it

    15621
    233
    5621
    2353
    215621
    233
    5621
    235321


  85. orangemarmalade

    Jun 03, 2006

    check the bible
    proverbs 4:15 -
    Avoid it, do not travel on it;
    turn from it and go on your way.

    just sayin’…

  86. Jun 03, 2006


  87. Cody Baker

    Jun 03, 2006

    I think the real question here is why would someone post these messages?

    A couple people have mentioned the LOST Experience Game as a possibility. That was one of my initial reactions also. When I listened to the recording, it sounded similar to the recording made by the french woman.

    Although I would rule out this possibility for a few reasons. The relative number stream in LOST is a repeating iteration, not a message. Second, this is originating from someone that knows German, not French as in LOST. Last, the LOST Game has only been setup and “played out” on it’s own servers and fake websites it has setup. There’s no reason for it to suddenly move to craigslist.

    That brings me to the next possibility: cryptographic love. I’m going to rule out this one because of the phrase “Mein Fraulein”. I don’t know if this is the correct translation, but if you use an online translator (I used google translate) it translates to “My woman wife”.

    Therein, the two would already be married and wouldn’t be sending love notes to each other.

    That really leaves two possibilites: it’s a hoax, or it actually is a message that someone is sending.

    My leiniency is toward a message, not only because I want to figure it out, but because the numbers are not random. If it was a hoax, the sender would only need to use fairly random strings of numbers to make it look real enough.


  88. Anonymous

    Jun 03, 2006

    I figured it out. Its a job posting for Google. Anyone who wants a Job at Google just call their job line and say “The code word is ‘Tuna Fish Hot Dog’”


  89. boom

    Jun 03, 2006

    Fraulein is the German equivalent of Miss. It’s actually spelled Fräulein.


  90. Richard John

    Jun 03, 2006

    ///617///973///3463/// is an IVR system with directions to the Federal reserve Bank in Boston.

    “For directions to the federal bank in Boston on 600 atlantic avenue, press 1.

    For directions to the federal reserve office in Windsor Lock (?)on 317 something (these bits are hard to understand with the american accent) turnpike, press 2


  91. MonkeyFish

    Jun 03, 2006

    Group 4-1-5. What if we broke them up into groups of 4, 1 and 5.

    0130 5 60510 1207 9 04606 5010 0
93000 0820 3 90130 9406 9 01207
8108 0 17028 0170 6 90220 7303 8
01401 7015 0 1507 3 00402 0068 0
12013 1251 0 00540 0409 1 01401
3015 0 86022 0960 8 10660 0208 2
05507 0002 0 00000 0220 8 30290
0802 2 01200 4071 0 13065 0270 9
40190 2901 4 02200 8002 0 11083
0730 0 30260 1900 0 00700 00000
86

    I think I did it correctly (it is a bit monotonous) Also, maybe it is not ascii, but Unicode?

    Nothing handy–maybe someone else can give it a try.

    (Also, if this is truely modern day spy stuff, we have zero chance of breaking the code with the modern state of cryptography)


  92. Gh0st121der

    Jun 03, 2006

  93. Jun 03, 2006


  94. Chris

    Jun 03, 2006

    “Then the chance that *any* number occurs 6 times is 128 times that, and this computes to about 0.6% chance. The chance that any number occurs 5 times in such a sequence is about 5%, but it happens to _two_ numbers in this sequence, which again has a very low chance of happening. So this message is definitely not random. That also means that it probably doesn’t use a one-time pad encryption or some complicated cryptosystem, as such cryptosystems are usually designed to yield random-looking results.”

    Or the encrypter plopped in a 000000 that the person for whom the message was sent too knew to take it out. It would throw off amateur cryptoanalyists.


  95. Eleanor

    Jun 03, 2006

    I think the comments by Richard John and Anonymous, obviously prove that this is the work bisexual Nazis after the Federal Reserve in Boston. Bloody bank robbing bisexual Nazis.


  96. Michael

    Jun 03, 2006

    Many are missing the obvious, though the obvious might just be to keep us off track: RNK is a typical abbreviation for Republic of North Korea.


  97. Max

    Jun 03, 2006

    Googling around I found a site from Denmark that contains many of these numbers in another apparent cryptographic arrangement.

    http://www.uradio.ku.dk/~ct/eurovejr/EURO0406

    I think it’s written in Danish, and it appears to be hosted on a radio-related site which would be in keeping with previous comments about certain shortwave stations. The eurovejr directory contains many files of this nature.

    Unfortunately the code is not quite identical, bearing many letters and a few symbols which for some reason remind me of assembler code.

    This website might be a pure coincidence.


  98. mark

    Jun 03, 2006

    interesting stuff.

  99. Jun 03, 2006


  100. bjuhn

    Jun 03, 2006

    eurovejr means euro-weather, and the guy write that his nr 1 interest is the weather, so i guess it’s just weather records
    ku.dk is the university of copenhagen, uradio is the university-radio. the guy is a technitian there


  101. Meanderthal

    Jun 03, 2006

    alright…kind of far fetched, but it won’t hurt.

    Little Black Heart
    (Magne Furuholmen / Paul Waaktaar)

    I never saw sunlight
    Burn as bright
    I never felt darkness
    The way I feel it tonight

    You say it’s getting better
    You say it’s allright

    But I never felt darkness
    Like I feel it tonight
    Little black heart

    Raindrops on my window
    I can’t tell them apart
    Like the few things forgiven
    In my little black heart

    You say it’s getting better
    We just never got it right

    But I never felt darkness
    The way I feel it tonight
    Little black heart

    Some day we will shine
    Like the moon in the morning
    Like the sun when it’s dawning
    Yes the sun when it’s dawning
    The sun

    Some day we will shine
    Like the moon in the morning
    Like the sun when it’s dawning
    Yes the sun when it’s dawning
    The sun

    Raindrops on my window
    I can’t tell them apart
    Like a few things forgotten
    And a few things ignored

    You say it’s getting better
    You say it’s allright

    But I never felt darkness
    The way I feel it tonight
    Little black heart

    My little black heart

    http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEsaros/SEsaros127.html

    coincidence? huge one at that?


  102. ZoomieDood

    Jun 03, 2006

    Somewhere out there might be a junior spook thinking, “When are these guys gonna figure it out, so I can get on with my assignment? I don’t dare ask for instructions again…”

    The other thought that came to mind is that 415 could be a setting on a 3 rotor Enigma machine, and you take the 7 bit characters and type them in and then get a real message out. :-)


  103. Coulombe

    Jun 03, 2006


  104. kitsune fox

    Jun 03, 2006

    Has any one tried playing the sound file to a dile tone. I cant help but think that the tones on the song are there for a reason. I think this is all sent through computers. I think the first set of tones in the message are there to tell a computer to to start a procedure. then the numbers are a code that a voice recognition program can determine. the last set of tones in the song are to tell the program to end or disconnect.


  105. Clueless

    Jun 03, 2006

    Has anyone considerd that it my be hexidecimal code? Maybe that’s too obvious but after all I am…

    Cluless


  106. chadams

    Jun 03, 2006

    I found an interesting pattern, it doesn’t work on all the groupings, but still interesting.

    Group 415
    01305
    60510
    12079
    04606
    50100
    93000
    08203
    90130
    94069
    01207
    81080
    17028
    01706
    90220
    73038
    01401
    70150
    15073
    00402
    00680
    12013
    12510
    00540
    04091
    01401
    30150
    86022
    09608
    10660
    02082
    05507
    00020
    00000
    02208
    30290
    08022
    01200
    40710
    13065
    02709
    40190
    29014
    02200
    80020
    11083
    07300
    30260
    19000
    00700
    00000
    86


  107. Jonas

    Jun 03, 2006

    @chadams: could this pattern indicate that they’re indeed zero-padded 3 digit numbers, usually only using 2 digits, with the first a “0″? I heard that theory elsewhere, and the occasions where your pattern doesn’t match could be those few occasions where all 3 digits are used.


  108. Richard John

    Jun 03, 2006

    Hm… don’t Ah-ha have a greatest hits album thing and are touring now – publicity stunt?


  109. Fabian

    Jun 03, 2006


  110. Otter

    Jun 03, 2006

    I listened to the recording and verified that the number groups are correctly transcribed (because!).

    I like the groups-of-three that fit within the 128-element space of ASCII code hypothesis, but there are 46 unique characters in that case. If all 10 numerals are in the message, that leaves 36 characters, and that is more than I would expect from a simple substitution cipher, even with capital letters and punctuation. Maybe you would expect something else, but I can’t even begin to solve this as a simple substitution.

    If you want to try that, here’s a substitution cracking tool that I found:

    http://www.simonsingh.net/The_Black_Chamber/frequencypuzzle.htm

    If there is a key involved, and it’s not a one-time pad, then it is possible to solve it but it will take a lot of work. See the Wikipedia entry on the Kryptos Puzzle at CIA headquarters for what it takes to go after a keyed text:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kryptos

    And here is my solution:

    If it’s a puzzle for us to crack, I will follow other people’s progress with delight. If it’s a private message I will leave it alone.

    The purpose of life is to play :)

    Otter
    6465636F6465406462616E6B2E6E657400
    http://nickciske.com/tools/hex.php


  111. puppy

    Jun 03, 2006

    If you take that list of 5-digit numbers and make them 6-digit, instead, all the zeros line up nice and neat. Just saying..


  112. manus

    Jun 03, 2006

    Here’s the story of the young cryptanalysts:

    [Franz] and [Laura] are relatively new recruits for [U.S. ORGANIZATION NAME DELETED] and were in the same orientation/training program earlier this year. At some point, there was a mixer for all the new cryptans; the music was playing, and “Take On Me” came on when she catches his eye. She’s sitting alone on the on the sidelines, bopping her her head as she reads [0-89412-275-4]. He decides to ask her to dance. She’s kind of shy about dancing in front of people, so they instead start talking about the song, and how the band is amazing (she grew up listening to them, they’re her favorite, etc.), and mentions her favorite song of theirs. They formally introduce each other, she says “oh, you have a cool German name?” and he’s like “ja, mein fraulein” (which later becomes his nickname for her) and she laughs at his charm. They talk more, they get along real well, one thing leads to another, and all of a sudden they’re a couple. Then, end of April, training/orientation ends, and they go their separate ways, on separate assignments. They vow to keep in touch and decide on the method (this code), channels (craigslist, slashdot), and frequency (every 3 weeks) of communication.

    [Franz] thinks he’s in love and wants to continue the (now long-distance) relationship, so he tries to be charming and sends the first message, the gist of which decodes to “a-ha is on tour soon. wanna go? – franz”

    [Laura] gets it, and returns his message via slashdot: “I’m sorry, I can’t. I don’t think I can do this anymore.”

    [Franz] is concerned about her “call” and sends another message: “what’s wrong, mein fraulein? are you ok?”

    …and that’s where we are now.

    BUT SHE’S WITH ME NOW, [FRANZ]! Can’t you take a hint?

    Geez.

    -manus


  113. alien3456

    Jun 03, 2006

    That mp3 file is definately not night time listening. I got the chills. Good luck, cryptos.


  114. Ratm

    Jun 03, 2006

    “That really leaves two possibilites: it’s a hoax, or it actually is a message that someone is sending.”

    That is bloody brilliant!


  115. Stormy

    Jun 04, 2006

    Im a huge Lost fan, and I smell Hanso all over this. But if I’m wrong, its interesting none the less.


  116. Oriana

    Jun 04, 2006

    ^ same reaction. This reminds me of Lost. x_x


  117. itomato

    Jun 04, 2006

    http://npa.rmlabs.net/index.php

    The NPA-NXX Geolocator shows each number set to be near or directly within a port/pier-area, including the Federal Reserve posting.

    212-796
    617-973
    415-704

    FWIW…


  118. Johan

    Jun 04, 2006

    “///617///973///3463/// is an IVR system with directions to the Federal reserve Bank in Boston.”

    Could it be that the numbers should be calculated into a single number string which you can use in this phone system of the bank. There are almost always “secret” code’s to connect you directly to a specific department. Example press XXXXXXX to get the dealers room of the bank…. Could it be this is code that if you press it you get connected to someone who wants to speak to this person.

    On the other hand I think this Boston number is pure fake and is not related to the original poster.

    It could be a recruiting add from Google or even from the NSA or an other agency. On the other hand it could also be indeed the next generation of a number station however using a phone number for this kind of things is very inconvenient because of the fact that you could trace who dialed this number. If you are a agent in Cuba the government can track who or at least from where this number is dialed. If you use a shortwave radio receiver nobody can track if someone is listening to this transmission.

    Personally I think this has some meaning, personally I think this code can be cracked…. And I am not willing to give up the chase already.


  119. ledzep

    Jun 04, 2006

    Did anyone play the message backward? The weird sounding “zero” actually sounds like “five”.


  120. Shawn

    Jun 04, 2006

    I personally think they are love letters, I’d really like to see them fully decrypted, I really think its amazing that someone would go this far to send love letters back and forth for a person


  121. orangemarmalade

    Jun 04, 2006

    013
    056
    051
    012
    079
    046
    065
    010
    093
    000
    082
    039
    013
    094
    069
    012
    078
    108
    017
    028
    017
    069
    022
    073
    038
    014
    017
    015
    015
    073
    004
    020
    068
    012
    013
    125
    100
    054
    004
    091
    014
    013
    015
    086
    022
    096
    081
    066
    002
    082
    055
    070
    002
    000
    000
    022
    083
    029
    008
    022
    012
    004
    071
    013
    065
    027
    094
    019
    029
    014
    022
    008
    002
    011
    083
    073
    003
    026
    019
    000
    007
    000
    000
    086

    they all start with 0 except 108, 125 and 100


  122. DP

    Jun 04, 2006

    “Mein Fraulein” translates literaly into “My woman wife” But is never used in that way. It is used for formal letter openings when addressing a young women. It can be used in a flattering manner when writing to a girl that you love. (Basically suggesting that they are young and beatufil)


  123. Meanderthal

    Jun 04, 2006

    Well, if the person that calls the number can be traced so easily, then maybe that’s why they put it on craigslist..so that many people will call it, making it impossible to narrow down suspects.


  124. Otter

    Jun 04, 2006

    Some notes for you:

    If this is encoded in ASCII code, with 000 being a spacer, and thus the letters being 001 to 128:

    This is the element frequency chart:

    http://dbank.net/puzzles/element-frequency.html (chart 2)

    It doesn’t compare closely with the letter frequency chart of the English alphabet, unless it includes capitalized first letters of the words, and I haven’t looked into that.

    The other sheets in that workboook show:

    Sheet 1: Distance between elements in the alphabet. Reason: If this were a simple substitution code then the common letters ETAOIN etc are known distances apart, and that can be used to see which of the more common elements might be each letter. After puzzling over this table I decided to make the frequency chart, and saw that this is not “just the alphabet” transposed.

    Sheet 2: Counting the elements, distribution for the chart, frequency marked in colors. This is used for:

    http://dbank.net/puzzles/212-decode.html

    Which has the message with higher-frequency elements in color so you can visualize what the letters might be, from the frequency tables above it.

    My conclusion: The frequency distribution is too flat, I’ve got other things to do :) Here are all my notes. Good luck!

    Otter
    687474703A2F2F6F747465722E69732E647265616D696E672E6F726700


  125. Max

    Jun 04, 2006

    You guys might enjoy http://www.maydaymystery.org as well.


  126. Quno

    Jun 04, 2006

    i used three digit groups as x/y koordinates and draw this picture
    Meinfraulein.gif


  127. jpumba

    Jun 04, 2006

    just a thought is it possible that its a fax could you record the sounds that the fax makes as the document is sent and reproduce the document through the recorded sounds and the music and numbers are just there to mask the data sounds, it just seems that someone went through a lot of trouble to edit that sound clip more than what would be necessary just to convey some numbers, just thought i would throw that out there and see what u think


  128. Super Dan

    Jun 04, 2006

    If you take a look at the book “Secret Signals” as posted above, and have little knowledge (like me) of the world of espionage, you can easily see that this message is VERY VERY similar to the messages transmitted by ‘numbers stations’. My guess is that the author of this book is correct in saying this is a hoax due to the inappropriate use of the ‘Group #’ syntax. It’s a lookalike that probably doesn’t contain any real information. I, for one, am not taking anymore time to decode the messages. But it is a very interesting book!


  129. kitsune fox

    Jun 04, 2006

    I do not think it is a hoax due to the fact that the numbers are not random. And this is not over a radio. if it was a hoax trying to mimic “numbers stations” it would be broadcast over one. not on a website where %.00001 of the viewers know what the are. When people fake things like that they do it ware they cant get recognition. There is something here. if it is possible to brake or not is a different story. It is not easy to edit sound files like that. It takes a lot of time. Has this been reported to the feds er any thing? They might have a better idea of what it is. A lot of things are done over computers now and i think it is more then a number puzzle. I think it is some kind of code a computer can read if it has the right software. But what it is i can only guess. but i do believe it is NOT fake.


  130. kitsune fox

    Jun 04, 2006

    Correction: They do it ware they ‘CAN’ get recognition. Sorry


  131. Mark

    Jun 04, 2006

    Many are missing the obvious, though the obvious might just be to keep us off track: RNK is a typical abbreviation for Republic of North Korea.

    There is no such thing as the “Republic of North Korea.”

    There is the “Republic of Korea,” which is the official name of South Korea. North Korea’s official name is the “Democratic People’s Republic of Korea,” abbrieviated DPRK.


  132. Ben

    Jun 05, 2006

    comment 34. — I am a linguist and I can tell you number recognition is the easiest kind of computerised recognition around. a speech recogniser can recognise someone speaking digits 99.9999999999..etc. % of the time. You wouldn’t have to tweak a recorded numeral at *all* to make it more palitable for a computer. you certainly wouldn’t do it progressively, tweaking differently for each of a set of digits that are the same.

    So if all the ‘zeroes’ in the message look different as audio waves, it’s because either information is hidden in the waveforms, or because (more likely) they’ve been altered by the sampling from wav to mp3, since mp3 is a compressed format.

  133. Jun 05, 2006


  134. Aaron Brazell

    Jun 05, 2006

    Anyone ever think that maybe the translated message is not into English. Perhaps each triplet or quintuplet or whichever grouping translates into, say, a Chinese character?


  135. bjuhn

    Jun 06, 2006

    could it be katakana or hiragana, each has 71 characters (or so i think, i’m not japanese ;) and the combined messages has 64 differet groups, not counting 000 or 007


  136. Johan Louwers

    Jun 06, 2006

    If you like to know how enigma is working I would suggest the link to wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine

    if you want to play with a enigma simulator you can use this link: http://enigmaco.de/_fs/index-enigma.html


  137. Ben

    Jun 06, 2006

    I think what we need here is some research. ‘Mein Fraulein’, if not purely a search key for the message in craigslist, must be some clue, or have some meaning. Assuming this message *is* intended to be cracked, we can only assume fairly obvious clues have been laid.

    So if the message isn’t in german, it must have something to do with germany. Engigma? ww2? german number stations? Wilco made a song that featured a sample from a german number station – modern band? a-ha (a norwegian band and not german btw, i discovered)? there’s got to be *something* in there.

    no doubt if someone looked up a bit of trivia about german number stations it; about how the enigma machine worked; etc. this would help i’m sure.


  138. Johan Louwers

    Jun 06, 2006

    However I do not think it is intended to be cracked. I do not think it is part of a game or contest or something like that, it might be good to investigate the enigma option just to rule it out of the options I do however think this will not be the clue we are all looking for.


  139. m3

    Jun 06, 2006

    It’s not alphabet realted.. it’s full words.. with each value relating to a different word.

    “013″ = “the”
    ;)


  140. Johan Louwers

    Jun 06, 2006

    m3, what gives you the impression this is the case and that it is related to complete words? Also what makes you think 013 translates to ‘the’?

    You could be quite right and this could be indeed the case I am however curious on how you came up with this?


  141. boom

    Jun 06, 2006

    Two 000′s in a row appear twice. If it’s in English, the only word I can think of that might repeat like that is “that,” but it’s extremely unlikely that that would happen twice in the same message.


  142. bjuhn

    Jun 06, 2006

    the enigma wouldn’t work as it only en- and decrypts letters


  143. Johan Louwers

    Jun 06, 2006

    I think we now starting to speculate very much. If this is true the message so far should read:

    the 056 051 012 079 046 065 010 093 that
    082 039 the 094 069 012 078 108 017 028
    017 069 022 073 038 014 017 015 015 073
    004 020 068 012 the 125 100 054 004 091
    014 the 015 086 022 096 081 066 002 082
    055 070 002 that that 022 083 029 008 022
    012 004 071 the 065 027 094 019 029 014
    022 008 002 011 083 073 003 026 019 that
    007 that that 086

    Giving me also ‘that 007 that that 086’ this is also a little strange I think. However converting the numbers directly into words can make sense. This is used in the past very often. Receive a message and use for example the main front-page article of a certain newspaper and start counting the words….


  144. Johan Louwers

    Jun 06, 2006

    “Two 000’s in a row appear twice. If it’s in English, the only word I can think of that might repeat like that is “that,” but it’s extremely unlikely that that would happen twice in the same message.”

    Can we calculate the odds of this appearing in a message of this size? Can we somewhere do some datamining on what to odds are based upon the number of words that a word is repeated like this twice? I am sure there is done some research on this topic.


  145. thebloodfromwithout

    Jun 06, 2006

    0VFP 0 90”p(pi s€pPs@ €1%T@‘@P† –f ‚Pp “0)€” P’ @  0s0&p†

    This is what you get when you put it into hex. Any significance to any one?


  146. Daniel

    Jun 06, 2006

    Lets suppose that these numbers do code words.

    A simple way of providing the key to the recipient would be to cue them to the text, then consecutively numbering the words in the text, and mapping them to the numbers in the message.

    So, given that the Group XXX has a clear meaning (i.e., area code). Lets start with with the song lyrics. I would have really been impressed if the 13th word was ‘the’ but its only the 12th unless you could “sunlight” as two words.

    there are simple permutations of this, e.g., various ways of dealing with repeated words, etc…

    nothing pops out immediately when you do this and i will admit that i would be a little disappointed if it was this simple…. i’ll poke around during my coffee break :-)


  147. brian

    Jun 06, 2006

    this one actually gets an answering machine.


  148. Daniel

    Jun 06, 2006

    oops, sorry this has been covered on the other 415 page. apologies…


  149. Aaron Brazell

    Jun 06, 2006

    That one is “Evan” and 301 is in Maryland. Obviously a fraud posting and possibly someone looking to get some kind of revenge on him.


  150. Simon Mason

    Jun 06, 2006

    kitsune fox says:
    “I do not think it is a hoax due to the fact that the numbers are not random. And this is not over a radio. if it was a hoax trying to mimic “numbers stations” it would be broadcast over one.”

    Well, that would mean the sender having access to short wave radio transmitting gear. Apart from being illegal, (like the real stations themselves, in fact), it would need many kW of power and a huge antenna farm to have a wide coverage. Here is a photo of a real number stations antenna farm (The Linconshire Poacher site).

    http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/page496.htm

    As you can see, it requires a large amount of land and equipment to pump out a decent signal. Much easier to put it in a pre-recorded message on a phone. BTW, if it *is* genuine and encoded the same as a genuine number station, then it is futile to try and decode it. Do you think a listener can decode the message on the back of an envelope or something? If you do, then you must see that it would be pointless to transmit the message in the first place!


  151. MEanderthal

    Jun 06, 2006

    Here’s something to at least take a look at. If there is an actual key to be found, it would probably be located in this:

    212 //// 796 //// 0735
    Mein Fraulein
    I haven’t heard from you in a while. Won’t you call me?
    Little Black Heart
    Magne Furuholmen
    Paul Waaktaar

    I also noticed that Mein Fraulein and Magne Furuholmen are pretty similar.


  152. kitsune fox

    Jun 06, 2006

    [To Simon Mason] Who is to say this has any thing to do with number stations? Yes there are similarities, But like i said b4 the numbers are not random. This my not be something that any person other than the intended recipient cat decipher. It might just be a student trying to send test answers to a friend w/o the school knowing! i also said “it would be broadcast over one. not on a website where %.00001 of the viewers know what the are. When people fake things like that they do it ware they cant get recognition.” Yes they are getting some good attention but i dont craigs list would be most peoples first choice for a hoax.


  153. Meanderthal

    Jun 06, 2006

    There are also a lot of differences in the audio from the two recordings. I think people should look further into this. I can personally tell right off that the music samples are different. They start at different points, one seems slowed down, the other seems sped up or possibly cut up.


  154. Michael Hampton

    Jun 06, 2006

    That Craigslist posting is fake. I flagged it as prohibited on craigslist, as the net effect of the message is going to be running up somebody’s Verizon Wireless cell phone bill with thousands of calls.


  155. somebody

    Jun 06, 2006

    I could tell you what it means, but then i would have to kill everyone who reads the answer, and i’m kinda busy right now.


  156. Ben

    Jun 06, 2006

    with respect to comments 29.-31. etc. and the idea the numbers refer to words: i find this unlikely. this is why:

    word distribution in any natural text is roughly logorithmic, so the most common words (like ‘the’, ‘a’, and other function words and auxillary verbs etc.) occur on a logorithmic curve at the top end, while uncommon words (like nouns) occur on the lower end of the curve. Basically what I’m saying is, if each number was a word, it would be the same as if each number was a letter: you’d see one code repeated many times, like for ‘the’ or ‘e’ or something common. The most frequent number only happens like 5 times.

    The frequencies for individual numbers go something like this: 5,4,5,4,3,2,3,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 etc. as you go through the message. This is true for both messages. The most frequenct numbers are low numbers, and happen near the beginning; but then over half the message features number codes that appear only once.

    The frequencies of number ranges goes something like this:

    0-10 *******
    10-20 *********
    20-30 *****
    30-40 *
    40-50 ***
    50-60 *
    60-70 *****
    70-80 ******
    80-90 ***
    90-100 *
    100-110 *
    110-120 *

    for *both messages*. This is a regular pattern that doesn’t match real text.

    Now – the words, or letters, or whatever is represented, could be out of order, and some sort of key might exist for indexing them.

    It might seem likely then that the lyrics of little black heart are the dictionary, the numbers in the message are positional references to words in the lyrics, and some key within the broadcast is there to help the reciever index them into proper order.

    *however*, then we’re also left with the problem that the message would end up looking something like:

    sunlight
    night
    never
    felt
    sunlight
    little
    heart
    black
    sunlight
    etc.

    i mean the song isn’t exactly diverse with it’s lyrics =P

    it’s all a very strange puzzle. my current pet theory is that the 0′s are dashes and the non-zeros are dots, and all this might be morse code. more on this later as i waste a few hours trying out that theory =P.


  157. ipdb

    Jun 07, 2006

    Okay, I’ve written a little javascript page that might help to decode these messages. (if they are number-word or number-letter substitution)

    (It auto-fills 000 and 013 based on suggested values, the rest are blank.)


  158. Johan Louwers

    Jun 07, 2006

    I get more and more the feeling we could be on the right track with this numbers to words thing here however this makes it virtually impossible to decode the message because we do not have a clue to which document to refer and we do not know if we have to hustle the words with some key like the group number…… I do not think it is the song text…..

    It would be very convenient if this was a pure math problem than we could figure this out somewhat more easily


  159. m3again

    Jun 07, 2006

    Ben… if your theory were correct.. almost every 3rd dot-or-dash in morse code would the same. (because of the frequency and pattern caused by the zeroes.) – This by itself, is an indicator that it’s highly unlikely to be morse code.


  160. Johan Louwers

    Jun 07, 2006

    Posting on slashdot:

    Further analysis of frequency and structure..

    10x 000
    8x 013
    6x 017,022,012
    5x 069,015
    4x 002,004,006,024,014,073
    3x 078,082,086,027,016,065,007,010

    For reference, words in English language in order of most common:

    The, of, to, and, a, in, is, it, you, that, he, was, for, on, are, with, as, I, his, they, be, at, one, have, this, from, or, had, by.

    Sentence Structure:
    013, 022, 082, 007, 021, 017 were all used to start a sentence.
    OF those 013, 022, 017 were also used mid-sentence.
    002, 093, 067, 017, 084, 095, 019 have been used at the end of sentences.
    000 appears to be CRLF, with a double set seperating paragraphs.
    007 and 086 seem to be words you can use alone on one line (like “thanks” or “goodbye”)
    015 appears twice consequetively in one sentence.
    (probably either side of a comma [one that isn't defined in the cypher])
    014,013,015 are likely to be 3 common words which can be used in that specific sequence. (eg. “is”,”from”,”the”)


  161. Ben

    Jun 07, 2006

    m3again comment 149 – yeah played around with it, got nothing. one translator came up with: TETTETEEETETTETTTETETETETETEEEETTETETE etc., my own analysis just got back gibberish and lots of blanks.

    of much interest: both phone numbers in both messages are padded with spaces and /’s so that they are *both* exactly 22 characters long. see my comments 146. onwards on the 415 number.

    with numbers to words – if this is a straight book cypher, what’s the book? if this obfuscated by a key, what’s the key? and perhaps the uniform distribution is due to a uniform key sequence being run over the letters/words/whatever. eg if key was 1 2 3 4 5 eventually the distribution of numbers would resemble a 1 2 3 4 5 rising type curve. both messages have even curves in their range distributions.

    btw – note that the frequency of words changes depending on corpus you refer to. ie. when they decide the most common words or letters in the ‘english language’, what ‘they’ are really doing is looking up a large collection of words, called a corpus, which is made for research purposes. it’s usually something like: 10 categories/genres of writing, each containing 500 samples of 2000words each of texts from these categories. put it together, and you’ve got a reasonable ‘view’ of general language use at the time you make the collection. check out: the LOB corpus, Brown corpus, ACE corpus, etc.

    so what are the most common words depend on the reference for this little statistical statement. if we’re talking about a message with unusual words, code-words, or a message without function words, etc. the most common word may in fact *not* be ‘the’, it might be ‘butterfly’ for all we know.

    what sample of text are the words coming from? seems probably not ‘little black heart’, so what then?


  162. Ben

    Jun 07, 2006

    we need to find what denotes the end of a sentence, if we want to crack this on the book cypher idea. the end of a sentence lets us know: how many words in the typical sentence, hence where the verb is likely to be, etc. i can’t see anything which occurs enough times in an even distribution.


  163. joe

    Jun 07, 2006

    what if there is nothing to denote the end of a sentence (assuming its even a readable text)? When making a cypher, alot of people wouldn’t even bother to encode periods and commas, and what not..


  164. m3

    Jun 07, 2006

    Well if “000″ denotes a CRLF.. that can help find the ends of a few sentences… of course.. the lack of periods/full-stops will make things a little trickier.


  165. Ron

    Jun 07, 2006

    Just for fun, I wrote a little script to convert the 7-bit binary into rows of (7) pixels, the way old pixel graphics were done in attribute cells. The results appear to be meaningless, at least given the cursory glance I’ve given it.

    Here are the two sets (enlarged 1 pixel–>5 pixels for easier viewing).

    Group 415

    Group 617


  166. tm

    Jun 07, 2006

    ipdb (comment #147):
    Nice script… I could play around with that for hours.

  167. Jun 08, 2006


  168. tmi

    Jun 08, 2006

    I doubt this is significant, but maybe interesting all the same:

    On June 4, on the wikipedia page for craigslist, a user called Meatspace (who seems to no longer exist in wikipedia’s db) entered a few lines about the New York message.

    The next day, these lines were removed by an unregistered user. Thing is, the deleter’s ip address traces back to craigslist, according to whois/samspade.

    I can understand the ads themselves being pulled, but what interest would the folks at craigslist have in suppressing the story?


  169. meatstack

    Jun 08, 2006

    TMI:

    I added the entry to the signifigant events page of Craig’s list a while ago. Noticed it was removed, never followed back up.

    It’s MeatSTACK btw, and I should still be a registered user.


  170. tmi

    Jun 08, 2006

    oof, i don’t know where meatspace came from – low caffeine level i suppose. sorry about that…

    all the same, i wonder why someone at craigslist would want your entry pulled…


  171. meatstack

    Jun 08, 2006

    that’s a fine question. I do not edit Wiki often, so I figured I had made some form of Newbie error, which one of the wiki regulars corrected.

    That’s why I didn’t go to the mat on the edit. I figured I would just try to drum up a little more attention to this incident..maybe this signifigant event is not so signifigant.

    But, the edit coming right from Craigslist makes this situation look dubious. Perhaps craigslist sees the messages, and my later entry into the wiki as spam?

    Maybe they know exactly what the messages are, but are not allowed to talk about them? Has anyone asked Craigslist why they pulled the messages in the first place?


  172. Joe West

    Jun 08, 2006

    i tried to start a wikipedia page for ‘For Mein Fraulien’ and they deleted it in about an hour.

    try it yourself.


  173. Joe West

    Jun 08, 2006

    hmmm.

    got a funny email today. not like the ones with the numbers [which btw, are said to be seeding for a new computer worm]. somehow, someone has divined my email address and has asked about this ‘mystery.’

    anyone else got anything like this?

    why its funny, is because ive never given my email up here. i have these pages bookmarked, so i dont need to leave an email to be updated.

    so…. just in case this person wants to hear back from me [because im not replying to the email] AIM: schadenfreudesin Yahoo: joe_west80

    i look foward to continuing this.


  174. Sam Fisher

    Jun 08, 2006

    I find this to be very intresting. I am a Counter-Intel agent in the US Army. I have listen to this and it catches my intrest very much so. I have sent this foward to some people. If I find anything out that I’m allowed to tell I show let you all know


  175. Johan Louwers

    Jun 09, 2006

    Yeah right Sam Fisher. ;-) nice try.

    For those who do not know who Sam Fisher is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_fisher

    “Sam Fisher is a veteran of the CIA Directorate of Operations and of U.S. Navy SEAL Team 3. He is 5 feet 10 inches tall, weighs 170 pounds (77 kg), usually has a rough-shave, and has black hair and green eyes. He is an operative of Third Echelon, a clandestine division of the National Security Agency. Fisher is extremely agile and an expert in the art of stealth. Fisher was the first person to be recruited as a field operative, of the “Splinter Cell” program for Third Echelon. He works alone in the field — in espionage parlance, he is a singleton. Fisher resides in a townhouse in Towson, Maryland when not on the job.”


  176. ehemann

    Jun 09, 2006

    Doublecheck the transcription for errors


  177. kitsune fox

    Jun 09, 2006

    Sam Fisher is a person in a video game called Splinter Cell. It might just be that persons screen name. Just like my name is not Kitsune fox.

    I got am email too, i deleted it. I think it was a prank. it came from a gmail account.


  178. Joe West

    Jun 09, 2006

    ‘Sam Fisher’ is a buddy of mine i gave this and the other link too.

    he really is what he says. he damned near had his leg blown off and hes at home healing.

    hes also passed the first mp3 up to his CO. the CO replied to him that it was above his classification at this time.

    i pasted the text to mike hampton.

    ‘sam’ thinks it could be cells talking to each other. this would make sense as its been said it appears that 2 different ppl are writing the messages on CL.

    however, everything is classified highly until its figured out. so it could just be they havent gotten around to it.

    i let him know hoping he could bust it for us. either way, its confirmed that the US govt has it and its official.

    On the email: i havent heard back from anyone via IM about it. ill give it some more time before i toss it up to a joke.


  179. euhnegro

    Jun 10, 2006

    Hey!
    I got this pattern, it looks like it is the part:
    Some day we will shine
    Like the moon in the morning
    Like the sun when it’s dawning
    Yes the sun when it’s dawning
    The sun

    0 13 0 56 0 51 0 12 0 79 0 46 0 65 0 10 0 93
    0 00
    0 82 0 39 0 13 0 94 0 69 0 12
    0
    7 81 0 8 0 17 0 28 0 17 0 69 0 22 0 73 0 38 0 14 0 17 0 15 0 15 0 73 0 04 0 20 0 68 0 12 0 13 1 25
    1 00
    0 54 0 04 0 91 0 14 0 13 0 15 0 86 0 22 0 96 0 81 0 66 0 02 0 82 0 55 0 70 0 02
    0 00
    0 00
    0 22 0 83 0 29 0 08 0 22 0 12 0 04 0 71 0 13 0 65 0 27 0 94 0 19 0 29 0 14 0 22 0 08 0 02 0 11 0 83 0 73 0 03 0 26 0 19
    0 00
    0 07
    0 00
    0 00
    0 86

    it might be scrambled though…


  180. ScubaSteve

    Jun 10, 2006

    Are we positive that the music is Little Black Heart?


  181. teamchristian

    Jun 10, 2006

    It is definitely A-HA’s Little Black Heart. I was so creeped out by the messages I ended up downloading the song. Its not bad.

    I do notice that the tempos are different on the first two messages as a few people have pointed out. I doubt that the song itself has anything to do with it, but perhaps the intonation or tempo could be key (literally). If the intended target of the message knew that the song was a key, why couldn’t the sender have told him or her a different and therefore secret key when they told him or her it was little black heart? And why play it to begin with? I don’t buy that it has anything to do with the song itself. If you listen to other recordings of these stations, some of them begin and close with a few bars of music, but the music is usually related to the overall mood of the message or sender. (look up the ‘Rodent Revolution’)

    Theres also been speculation that this has sometihng to do with the whole Lost Experience. I suspected that at first as well. If you go to the official discussion website, there are similar numbers to decode and whatnot. Even the A-HA album art is the nose of a crashed airplane…think about it. However, if you look more into the Lost game, you see that it is sponsored by corporations like Verison, Monster and Sprite. I doubt that they would post a clue on a community site like Craigslist. I think that rules it out almost immediately.

    Thats my thoughts for now. I’ve been quietly watching this whole thing. I can’t wait to see how this all ends. It better be something mindboggling.

  182. Jun 10, 2006


  183. Michael Hampton

    Jun 10, 2006

    I moved most of the comments relating to the third numbers station over to that posting, for purposes of logical continuity. You’ll find them there.


  184. Curious

    Jun 10, 2006

    I had this brilliant flash of insight a minute ago. I took the text of the first station and converted it to binary. Then, I inverted the string (convert all 0 to 1 and 1 to 0) and translated it back to text.
    ¸ŠßËÎÊòõÏÎÌÏÊßÉÏÊÎÏßÎÍÏÈÆßÏËÉÏÉßÊÏÎÏÏòõÆÌÏÏÏßÏÇÍÏÌ߯ÏÎÌÏ߯ËÏÉÆßÏÎÍÏÈòõÇÎÏÇÏßÎÈÏÍÇßÏÎÈÏÉ߯ÏÍÍÏßÈÌÏÌÇòõÏÎËÏÎßÈÏÎÊÏßÎÊÏÈÌßÏÏËÏÍßÏÏÉÇÏòõÎÍÏÎÌßÎÍÊÎÏßÏÏÊËÏßÏËÏÆÎßÏÎËÏÎòõÌÏÎÊÏßÇÉÏÍÍßÏÆÉÏÇßÎÏÉÉÏßÏÍÏÇÍòõÏÊÊÏÈßÏÏÏÍÏßÏÏÏÏÏßÏÍÍÏÇßÌÏÍÆÏòõÏÇÏÍÍßÏÎÍÏÏßËÏÈÎÏßÎÌÏÉÊßÏÍÈÏÆòõËÏÎÆÏßÍÆÏÎËßÏÍÍÏÏßÇÏÏÍÏßÎÎÏÇÌòõÏÈÌÏÏßÌÏÍÉÏßÎÆÏÏÏßÏÏÈÏÏßÏÏÏÏÏòõÇÉ

    I don’t know if anyone sees any signifigance in that, but I think my brilliant idea was another dead end. I wonder what would happen if you factored in the repeats? “Group 415 Group 415″


  185. Q

    Jun 11, 2006

    its creepy. i know its not a hoax or publicity stunt, its way to esoteric for that.
    my mind is burning for an answer, but the more i think about it the more i feel like if i keep probing something bad may happen.
    i think the group number is the decode key, like for an enigma machine. it can be in plain sight because we are missing context that tells us how to use the key.

    they may each have a book and the context may be on page 415 for this message. it is a european voice, chopped up probably with a keyboard linked to a recording of each number. you only need 10 numbered keys and one for the word “group”. the voice may not be real, it may be text to speech; making this even more creepy.


  186. Gh0st121der

    Jun 11, 2006

    Is it just me…. or does each message seem to get shorter… Kinda like a “CountDown”?

    Author: SteveJabs
    Comment:
    The messages appear to be getting smaller…take a look:

    New York City – (212) 796-0735
    message number: 212 //// 796 //// 0735

    Group 415
    01305 60510 12079 04606 50100
    93000 08203 90130 94069 01207
    81080 17028 01706 90220 73038
    01401 70150 15073 00402 00680
    12013 12510 00540 04091 01401
    30150 86022 09608 10660 02082
    05507 00020 00000 02208 30290
    08022 01200 40710 13065 02709
    40190 29014 02200 80020 11083
    07300 30260 19000 00700 00000
    86

    San Francisco – (415) 704-0402
    message number: ///415///704///0402///

    Group 617
    06107 80020 21085 00601 30690
    06079 01201 50240 07006 01601
    70690 95000 01702 40050 14024
    00908 70220 67089 07401 00820
    10086 07801 30240 04016 02707
    30130 15006 09306 91120 20084
    00000 00210 03070 03107 60490
    65023 02706 70000 07016 01201
    7

    Atlanta – (678) 248-2353
    message number: ///678///248///2352///

    Group 134
    00300 30020 79087 02202 50150
    75031 06501 00110 67027 06607
    90640 21079 02107 90000 72018
    06501 60000 12008 06801 90180
    15088 03108 40730 29024 02500
    60760 79013 01107 70950 07071
    01806 9070


  187. ipdb

    Jun 12, 2006

    There’s no evidence of the data being scrambled, random, encrypted, stream-cipher or something that needs to be converted into binary/hex/octal/etc. There’s no evidence of a cartesian plane, there’s no evidence that these numbers should be broken up any more than into their groups of 3-digits and there’s indication that this also is not OTP.

    On the evidence we have… we just need to work out what the meaning of each of these 3-digit values are.

    There is nothing to suggest that we need to manipulate that data any further. Just that we need to understand what each value equates to.


  188. Johan Louwers

    Jun 12, 2006

    I am not so sure that euhnegro is on the wrong track here. During the ‘Off the hook’ show there was a letter mentioned send to the show where someone was claiming that they where behind this and that it was all a prank to promote the hope 6 conference.

    Blinkenlights is done by a couple of people from the German CCC and 2600 and CCC have close ties. Also blinkenlights is coming to the hope 6 conference.

    Here an example of a very simple Blinkenlights Movie how it looks in the text editor:

    @200
    000000000000000000
    000011100011100000
    000111110111110000
    000111111111110000
    000011111111100000
    000000111110000000
    000000001000000000
    000000000000000000

    @800
    000011100011100000
    000111110111110000
    001111111111111000
    001111111111111000
    000111111111110000
    000011111111100000
    000000111110000000
    000000001000000000

    Each frame starts with a @ followed by its delay time in milliseconds. @1000 equals 1 second. Following this comes the image. Every image consists of 8 lines with 18 digits each. A 1 represents a switched-on lamp while a 0 stands for complete darkness.
    You may put any number of comment lines between the identification line and the first frame. They must be preceded by a # character. The end of line my be a CR (ASCII 13), a LF (ASCII 10) or CRLF (ASCII 13 + ASCII 10). We recommend saving your file with LF. Two frames may be seperated by one or more empty lines.

    Maybe the groups are representing the milliseconds a frame should appear on the ‘screen’. Maybe it is up to us to think about a way to change this into a Blinkenlights movie. For those who do not own a Linux machine there is a windows tool you can download: http://blinkenlights.net/blinkenlights bm_play.exe (Windows)


  189. ipdb

    Jun 13, 2006

    If these were representations of 18-bit values the range would be larger.

    A 16-bit (unsigned) number would have an range of 0-65535.

    Every second value in this instance would cover the 0-255 range in a much more distributed manner than it has from what we’ve seen.

    If it were an 18-bit number, we’d have to shift 2 bits… and then… the number ranges and apparent randomness would be much greater than the identifiable patterns we’ve observed.

    Simply based on the numbers, it’s unlikely that these are anything above a 7-bit representation. And even that… is probably irrelevant too!!


  190. Brandon

    Jun 13, 2006

    Anyone think its a combonation of codes , that the last message in the string will unlock the whole series?

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  193. Michael Hampton

    Jun 16, 2006

    I’m closing comments here as I’ve opened a cryptanalysis thread with (I hope) a good summary of what’s known so far.

  194. Jun 20, 2006

  195. Jul 03, 2006

  196. Jul 12, 2006

  197. Aug 28, 2006

  198. Nov 09, 2006


  199. Dagny

    Jun 27, 2010

    http://www.secondagenda.com/0712200620/fraulein/ it may be possible that there are people communicating. i decided to take one of th messages and tke all the zeros out but i couldnt find anytthing on decodoing it. ive spent an hr and a hal researching. it was an add? i dontt know. maybe its two people sending love mesages. i listened to the recorodings and how someone said the usd nnumbers to hide theier voice, i think they spliced for the same reason. and the accent.

    ‘ “Secret Signals” is about the enduring mystery of the shortwave bands-namely the “Numbers Stations” These are supposedly one way transmissions to espionage agents working in foreign countries. Where do these transmissions come from? Well, one source is an Embassy building in a particular country. Look at the grotesque log periodic antenna on top of the Yugoslav embassy in Washington. Other sites may include international broadcasters. The B.B.C. has always denied any involvement and in the book you will read of a denial of the use of the frequency 6840 kHz “We have not used it for many years”. However, later on came the following reply from B.F.B.S. “Thank you for your letter enquiring about our 6840 kHz frequency and any associated interference. You may, or may not, know that this frequency was “lent” to us in order that British Forces serving in the Gulf area could keep in touch with not only the British news but also Service news via BFBS.

    The transmitter that radiates this frequency is situated on Cyprus and the transmissions are directed towards the Gulf region (sounds familiar!). We have never had any complaints of the type you describe and therefore no call for further action. It would seem that the heavy interference you describe may well not affect our listeners in the Gulf area since our signal there will be infinitely stronger.” See QSL1 and QSL2. Could this be a QSL in lieu of a Lincolnshire Poacher confirmation? There have been stations that have had genuine callsigns such as DFC37 and DFD21 and even stations that have issued QSL cards, such as Czech station OLX and semi-spy station KKN44. ‘ take a look at that too.


  200. Grone

    Apr 06, 2011

    actually, numbers stations have existed since the creation of the radio. when Guillermo Marconi launched its first radio, heard numbers


  201. Mason Harper

    Jan 02, 2012

    If we assume that every 000 is a space and that all letter/numbers are in the hundred format (—), then we get:
    013 056 051 012 079 046 065 010 093 000 082 039 013 094 069 012 078 108 017 028 017 069 022 073 038 014 017 015 015 073 004 020 068 012 013 125 100 054 004 091 014 013 015 086 022 096 081 066 002 082 055 070 002 000 000 022 083 029 008 022 012 004 071 013 065 027 094 019 029 014 022 008 002 011 083 073 003 026 019 000 007 000 000 086

    Sequence 013 comes up often, possible vowel?

    line 1 – 9 characters -inconclusive
    line 2 – around 50 characters -inconclusive
    line 3 – no characters -mabye a line skip?
    line 4 – 24 characters – inconclusive
    line 5 – 1 character -inconclusive
    line 6 – no characters -line skip? maybe a initial/codename?

    leaving us with:

    ——— ————————————————-
    ————————
    - -

    We cant assume that it is 2 numbers to a character and every third character -which happens to be a zero most of the time- is a space, as this is ruled out 16 chars in and brought back in further along.

    My conclusion is that the message is undecipherable to human eyes and will require input from most of the best decipherers to create a program which may or may not come to a output with results. Best bet is to let this play out. I know I am a couple years early, but hey, so is the rest of the world.


  202. Mason Harper

    Jan 02, 2012

    As a alternative, brain wash a soldier, send him to a Russian POW camp known as Vorkuta, devise a 8-step plan to freedom, turn him to insanity and he’ll decipher it for you!


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