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	<title>Comments on: Who restarts the Internet after a cyber Katrina?</title>
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		<title>By: Homeland Security not ready for Cyber Storm - Homeland Stupidity</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/06/28/who-restarts-the-internet-after-a-cyber-katrina/#comment-9964</link>
		<dc:creator>Homeland Security not ready for Cyber Storm - Homeland Stupidity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In June, the Business Roundtable issued a report saying that &#8220;the United States is not sufficiently prepared for a major attack, software incident or natural disaster that would lead to disruption of large parts of the Internet&#8221; and that coordinating a response to such an attack or disaster should be turned over to the Department of Homeland Security.    Comments RSS - Trackback URI [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In June, the Business Roundtable issued a report saying that &#8220;the United States is not sufficiently prepared for a major attack, software incident or natural disaster that would lead to disruption of large parts of the Internet&#8221; and that coordinating a response to such an attack or disaster should be turned over to the Department of Homeland Security.    Comments RSS &#8211; Trackback URI [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nixer6</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/06/28/who-restarts-the-internet-after-a-cyber-katrina/#comment-9963</link>
		<dc:creator>Nixer6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 21:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the internet is so robust, why do I read about DOS attacks that
completely shut down large web sites. I am more concerned about
specific attacks on vital National Interests, Power Grids, the DoD,
the NRO etc. How about the military parts system? Banks and
financial transactions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the internet is so robust, why do I read about DOS attacks that<br />
completely shut down large web sites. I am more concerned about<br />
specific attacks on vital National Interests, Power Grids, the DoD,<br />
the NRO etc. How about the military parts system? Banks and<br />
financial transactions.</p>
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		<title>By: Bog</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/06/28/who-restarts-the-internet-after-a-cyber-katrina/#comment-9962</link>
		<dc:creator>Bog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole reason the internet was invented in the first place was so that the DoD could communicate during and after a nuclear war.  In other words, the net was specifically designed to handle catastrophes of the largest magnitude.

and Malfoy- that google dns problem was scheduled.  They intentionally did that.  There was no &quot;glitch&quot;.  And it was down for less than 15 mins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole reason the internet was invented in the first place was so that the DoD could communicate during and after a nuclear war.  In other words, the net was specifically designed to handle catastrophes of the largest magnitude.</p>
<p>and Malfoy- that google dns problem was scheduled.  They intentionally did that.  There was no &#8220;glitch&#8221;.  And it was down for less than 15 mins.</p>
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		<title>By: blah</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/06/28/who-restarts-the-internet-after-a-cyber-katrina/#comment-9961</link>
		<dc:creator>blah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Homeland Security help someone?  What a joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Homeland Security help someone?  What a joke.</p>
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		<title>By: MM</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/06/28/who-restarts-the-internet-after-a-cyber-katrina/#comment-9960</link>
		<dc:creator>MM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no centralization of &quot;The Internet&quot;. It is comprised of individual sites and providers. This &#039;global internet attack&#039; scenario is not possible!  due to this very nature.

Therefore, I conclude it is a bad idea to have ALL traffic go through a central government agency...because then it WOULD be possible to have a cenral US Based attack. (not global)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no centralization of &#8220;The Internet&#8221;. It is comprised of individual sites and providers. This &#8216;global internet attack&#8217; scenario is not possible!  due to this very nature.</p>
<p>Therefore, I conclude it is a bad idea to have ALL traffic go through a central government agency&#8230;because then it WOULD be possible to have a cenral US Based attack. (not global)</p>
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		<title>By: JG</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/06/28/who-restarts-the-internet-after-a-cyber-katrina/#comment-9959</link>
		<dc:creator>JG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, the government in the internet is not a good idea. The private sector will shoulder the internet outages just fine.  It happens every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, the government in the internet is not a good idea. The private sector will shoulder the internet outages just fine.  It happens every day.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hampton</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/06/28/who-restarts-the-internet-after-a-cyber-katrina/#comment-9958</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hampton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 06:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know quite well how the Internet works, and I think the idea that Homeland Security needs to help companies recover their portions of it is quite stupid.

Which is why it appears here at Homeland Stupidity.

Unfortunately more than a few people can&#039;t seem to read, and got the opposite impression. That sort of stupidity is a bit beyond my ability to deal with...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know quite well how the Internet works, and I think the idea that Homeland Security needs to help companies recover their portions of it is quite stupid.</p>
<p>Which is why it appears here at Homeland Stupidity.</p>
<p>Unfortunately more than a few people can&#8217;t seem to read, and got the opposite impression. That sort of stupidity is a bit beyond my ability to deal with&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Malfoy</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/06/28/who-restarts-the-internet-after-a-cyber-katrina/#comment-9957</link>
		<dc:creator>Malfoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 05:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you guys over estimate the resilence of the internet.  Remember not too long ago,May 2005, Google&#039;s DNS hit a glitch and ALL of Google&#039;s domain names were unavailable for long enough to cause some serious concerns among the google faithful(meaning it was more than a few minutes.)  Those who knew Google&#039;s ip were fine, but how many people keep that bit of information lying around. Now last time I checked, Google was no small fry in 2005 and a mere GLITCH  made him invisible to majority of the internet. GOOGLE, THE KING OF SEARCH, WASNT AVAILABLE TO THE MASSES. And that was because of a GLITCH.  If that&#039;s all it takes to make Google &#039;disappear&#039;, then a well planned attack on the internet can make a lot more things &#039;disappear&#039;. I&#039;m not saying take down large amounts of sites, that is one approach but probably a dumb one.  Keep the sites standing but if a group  can make a DNS &#039;glitch&#039; similar to what happened to Google happen on a much larger scale? Then the internet to all but the few hardcore who keep ips of every site they frequent has ceased to exist.

I think we should make note of how ISPs (at least US ones) are capable and some are complying with routing all internet traffic to the NSA so they can do a check. Ok, so now we know it is possible to route all internet traffic to a particular point with relevative easy.   If its that easy to route and track, it can not be that hard to shut it down at the same points.  It&#039;s just a matter of finding and &#039;attacking&#039; these points.

The internet coming to a halt? Not likely but far from impossible.  It takes only a few key moves to bring down the internet.  It will take probably a few more than that to bring it back and prevent the same exploit from happening again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you guys over estimate the resilence of the internet.  Remember not too long ago,May 2005, Google&#8217;s DNS hit a glitch and ALL of Google&#8217;s domain names were unavailable for long enough to cause some serious concerns among the google faithful(meaning it was more than a few minutes.)  Those who knew Google&#8217;s ip were fine, but how many people keep that bit of information lying around. Now last time I checked, Google was no small fry in 2005 and a mere GLITCH  made him invisible to majority of the internet. GOOGLE, THE KING OF SEARCH, WASNT AVAILABLE TO THE MASSES. And that was because of a GLITCH.  If that&#8217;s all it takes to make Google &#8216;disappear&#8217;, then a well planned attack on the internet can make a lot more things &#8216;disappear&#8217;. I&#8217;m not saying take down large amounts of sites, that is one approach but probably a dumb one.  Keep the sites standing but if a group  can make a DNS &#8216;glitch&#8217; similar to what happened to Google happen on a much larger scale? Then the internet to all but the few hardcore who keep ips of every site they frequent has ceased to exist.</p>
<p>I think we should make note of how ISPs (at least US ones) are capable and some are complying with routing all internet traffic to the NSA so they can do a check. Ok, so now we know it is possible to route all internet traffic to a particular point with relevative easy.   If its that easy to route and track, it can not be that hard to shut it down at the same points.  It&#8217;s just a matter of finding and &#8216;attacking&#8217; these points.</p>
<p>The internet coming to a halt? Not likely but far from impossible.  It takes only a few key moves to bring down the internet.  It will take probably a few more than that to bring it back and prevent the same exploit from happening again.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 02:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, Katrina DID hit the United States... and the internet was unaffected.

If catastrophic meteors were to take out all US-based backbone DNS sites the internet would slow down for a while, but the rest of it would come back around.

And besides, if that much death and destruction came about there&#039;d be more pressing matters than checking Digg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, Katrina DID hit the United States&#8230; and the internet was unaffected.</p>
<p>If catastrophic meteors were to take out all US-based backbone DNS sites the internet would slow down for a while, but the rest of it would come back around.</p>
<p>And besides, if that much death and destruction came about there&#8217;d be more pressing matters than checking Digg.</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 01:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this article is a joke. Nothing new to add from the comments above, but yeah, as someone who makes all of his money from the internet, and is posting from a datacenter, any talk from the government, about a cyber katrina, cyber 911, or anything else that stupid &#039;threatening our nations security&#039;, has another agenda in mind. The ironic part is that agenda could be the very threat to the security and freedom of the nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this article is a joke. Nothing new to add from the comments above, but yeah, as someone who makes all of his money from the internet, and is posting from a datacenter, any talk from the government, about a cyber katrina, cyber 911, or anything else that stupid &#8216;threatening our nations security&#8217;, has another agenda in mind. The ironic part is that agenda could be the very threat to the security and freedom of the nation.</p>
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