Comments on: Government forces Toyota to make trucks dangerous for children http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/07/15/government-forces-toyota-to-make-trucks-dangerous-for-children/ Protect yourself from government gaffes, bureaucratic blunders and incumbent incompetence Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:25:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: babs http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/07/15/government-forces-toyota-to-make-trucks-dangerous-for-children/#comment-10292 babs Sun, 01 Jul 2007 15:44:38 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/07/15/government-forces-toyota-to-make-trucks-dangerous-for-children/#comment-10292 So what is the safest thing to do if you only have a front seat to restrain a 18lb baby? If you don't have an airbag i assume it is to put them rear facing in a car seat. but what if you have an airbag without a switch... go to the dealer and get it disabled. So what is the safest thing to do if you only have a front seat to restrain a 18lb baby? If you don’t have an airbag i assume it is to put them rear facing in a car seat. but what if you have an airbag without a switch… go to the dealer and get it disabled.

]]> By: Becky http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/07/15/government-forces-toyota-to-make-trucks-dangerous-for-children/#comment-10291 Becky Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:46:56 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/07/15/government-forces-toyota-to-make-trucks-dangerous-for-children/#comment-10291 The comment that was posted before this raised some questions in my eyes. I am the parent of 2 boys, and we have been on some long trips. Your child, or children should mean enouph to you that you pull over and feed them somewhere safe, or change them when you stop or pull over as well. If the child has to wait a few minutes it won't kill them. Children should not be unbelted, or lap babies in a moving car or truck. If you pack bottles, even if you are nursing you can usually feed them in the seat they are in, and just stop for burping, and diaper changes. Even if you are nursing, they made breast pumps for a reason! The answer to the government having the right to make the laws about what you may or may not do with your children is easy. If you are not a registered voter then become one, and help vote what you think might be the right officials into office. Sitting around and complaining about these things won't do any good, so take some action! The comment that was posted before this raised some questions in my eyes. I am the parent of 2 boys, and we have been on some long trips. Your child, or children should mean enouph to you that you pull over and feed them somewhere safe, or change them when you stop or pull over as well. If the child has to wait a few minutes it won’t kill them. Children should not be unbelted, or lap babies in a moving car or truck. If you pack bottles, even if you are nursing you can usually feed them in the seat they are in, and just stop for burping, and diaper changes. Even if you are nursing, they made breast pumps for a reason! The answer to the government having the right to make the laws about what you may or may not do with your children is easy. If you are not a registered voter then become one, and help vote what you think might be the right officials into office. Sitting around and complaining about these things won’t do any good, so take some action!

]]> By: An annoyed parent http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/07/15/government-forces-toyota-to-make-trucks-dangerous-for-children/#comment-10290 An annoyed parent Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:25:51 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/07/15/government-forces-toyota-to-make-trucks-dangerous-for-children/#comment-10290 One question and one question only. Plain and simple. Should the government have the right to tell a parent how to take care of their child while they are contained in automobiles? I dont have a problem with child restaints. But I do have a problem with the government calling it child endangerment if a parent takes a child out of a child restraint. Then not only do they break the law and call it child endangerment but the punishment is... a fine, go to jail, get your kids taken away, or worse of all.... all of the above. Now my father works at the fire department so I know that carseats and seatbelts can save lives and have. But I do not agree that the government can tell a parent how to take care of their child. What if you are on a long trip and your child is hungry or needs changed or something that needs attentioned to? Do you take them out every 1/2 hr for the different need? Or not because it is a law and you can get in trouble if you violate it. I want the decision of "risking" my child while i am in an automobile. One last thing. It is way more dangerous for children to be in the front and I do not agree with it. But if a parent wants their child up there with them, then let them. It should be their choice and their fault if something would happen. So go ahead and let Toyota do what ever they please. I like the idea of the switch on airbags. It's a great idea. I think they should leave it personally. But in the end... just let the parent decide how they want their child placed in their car. DO you agree or disagree? One question and one question only. Plain and simple. Should the government have the right to tell a parent how to take care of their child while they are contained in automobiles? I dont have a problem with child restaints. But I do have a problem with the government calling it child endangerment if a parent takes a child out of a child restraint. Then not only do they break the law and call it child endangerment but the punishment is… a fine, go to jail, get your kids taken away, or worse of all…. all of the above. Now my father works at the fire department so I know that carseats and seatbelts can save lives and have. But I do not agree that the government can tell a parent how to take care of their child. What if you are on a long trip and your child is hungry or needs changed or something that needs attentioned to? Do you take them out every 1/2 hr for the different need? Or not because it is a law and you can get in trouble if you violate it. I want the decision of “risking” my child while i am in an automobile. One last thing. It is way more dangerous for children to be in the front and I do not agree with it. But if a parent wants their child up there with them, then let them. It should be their choice and their fault if something would happen. So go ahead and let Toyota do what ever they please. I like the idea of the switch on airbags. It’s a great idea. I think they should leave it personally. But in the end… just let the parent decide how they want their child placed in their car. DO you agree or disagree?

]]> By: Becky http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/07/15/government-forces-toyota-to-make-trucks-dangerous-for-children/#comment-10289 Becky Fri, 05 Jan 2007 18:41:34 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/07/15/government-forces-toyota-to-make-trucks-dangerous-for-children/#comment-10289 While I don't believe that Toyota should be taking the switch option off the passenger side air bag, it is still important to have the latch system for five point harness car seats. There have been cases where it has nothing to do with parents putting the seat belt on correctly. In one case a brother and sister were in the same car, in matching car seats. The car they were in was hit and the brothers seat belt failed while the sisters continued to work. She lived, and he did not make it. The only problem was the seat belt didn't function correctly upon impact. No parent could have seen that coming. My point is that we should not be relying on airbags, or seatbelts. It has clearley been proven that sometimes they work, and others they just don't. What we do have control over is the car seats we buy and putting them in properly. While I don’t believe that Toyota should be taking the switch option off the passenger side air bag, it is still important to have the latch system for five point harness car seats. There have been cases where it has nothing to do with parents putting the seat belt on correctly. In one case a brother and sister were in the same car, in matching car seats. The car they were in was hit and the brothers seat belt failed while the sisters continued to work. She lived, and he did not make it. The only problem was the seat belt didn’t function correctly upon impact. No parent could have seen that coming.
My point is that we should not be relying on airbags, or seatbelts. It has clearley been proven that sometimes they work, and others they just don’t. What we do have control over is the car seats we buy and putting them in properly.

]]> By: Michael Hampton http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/07/15/government-forces-toyota-to-make-trucks-dangerous-for-children/#comment-10288 Michael Hampton Sun, 23 Jul 2006 12:48:05 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/07/15/government-forces-toyota-to-make-trucks-dangerous-for-children/#comment-10288 Amen! Preach it, brother! Hallelujah! Praise Gawd! Amen! Preach it, brother! Hallelujah! Praise Gawd!

]]> By: TheMan http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/07/15/government-forces-toyota-to-make-trucks-dangerous-for-children/#comment-10287 TheMan Sun, 23 Jul 2006 11:14:13 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/07/15/government-forces-toyota-to-make-trucks-dangerous-for-children/#comment-10287 I feel everyone here is missing the real point. We live in an unsafe world where people do unsafe things. One of the least of these unsafe things is what they choose to do with a child seat. All the government regulations have solved no world problems. I have been all over the world. There is homelessness, drunkenness, hate, carelessness everywhere. If you read the newspaper you will see stories of people electrocuting themselves with hair dryers in the bathtub. People fall off ladders, cut their selves while cooking. They burn themselves in a variety of ways. Children stick their fingers in light bulb sockets and get electrocuted. That is the way of things. Over the years I have seen things that would amaze anyone. All the times I wish I could record my memories so others can share in the insanity of life and see what I have seen. You would be able to see women that have no hope of ever being attractive putting on makeup while driving 60MPH on the freeway, coming up to slow traffic slamming their brakes then yelling who knows what. I suspect blaming the world for their own stupidity thinking it every bodies fault but their own. Men holding up and reading the Wall Street Journal at daybreak driving at breakneck speeds to rush to get that stock trade in before the market opens. People driving after drinking weaving all over the road. That is a real problem. Of all the road fatalities last year how many were caused by drunk drivers? How many were caused by careless drivers? If you really care about life do something about that. Stop worrying about a few kids. In the big picture they are irrelevant. Children don't listen to parents. A screaming child will distract even the most patient parent. Just because they should be in the child seat (regardless of if it is installed properly) doesn't mean you can keep them there all the time. The statistical probability of a child being injured the few times it isn't in the proper restraints is very small. Society needs to stop trying to regulate everything. Give police / parents a little discretion. Don't accuse them of manslaughter just because a few kids are hurt/killed because of an accident. Bring back some common sense to the world. Stop thinking your morals are superior to everyone else’s. If we don't stop the insanity of regulation now in just a few decades we won't be able to live life. We will be doped up on drugs so we don't have ANY emotion no love, hate, fear, joy, anything. Your kids won't be allowed to climb a tree or swim in a river. You won't be able to hike in the forest or enjoy loud music. Your life will be grey, from morning to night. You will only be a slave to the system. The second your child says an inappropriate statement it will be pulled out of class doped up even more and be subjected to electric shock therapy. It will be taken out of your custody and given to the state because you were a bad parent because your child said an inappropriate thing. The slightest infraction you make at work or in your home will remove all your privileges. The state will own your life, you will own nothing not even your own thoughts. You already lost your genes, they are owned by big companies like Celera and Genentech, and your proteins are being patented as you read this. The food you eat isn’t yours it is owned by a biotech that will sue you if you replant the seeds. Not that you should eat a tomato that has squid DNA, or corn that has a gene from a rat, and that is just the tip of the iceberg. All of this outrage over such an insignificant issue. Why does anyone care if government forced Toyota to come into compliance on a regulation? Toyota knew about the regulation before the vehicle was built. They chose to ignore it, and instead of everyone blaming Toyota for not designing a proper child restraint system into a pickup truck as if people should drive trucks for family cars they are complaining about the government. Trucks are work vehicles they are not for the family. If you want to have children buy a minivan or a sedan or a station wagon or even an environment killing SUV. A truck no matter what kind of cab is not a family vehicle. The government didn’t tell Toyota to disable the switch but not do anything to improve the safety. The government told Toyota to make the vehicle comply with regulations. Toyota had the choice to fix the truck anyway it chose. Toyota chose to make it less safe for small children in car seats. This should look bad for Toyota and everyone should go out and carry signs in front of Toyota dealers that say Child Killers. For those of you who are thinking why we should force parents to not drive trucks it puts an undue burden on them if that is the only vehicle they have. My reply is that if they can’t afford a family vehicle they have no business starting a family. How will they afford the health care, the diapers, and the hospital stay for birthing? Why it is that society should be forced to bare the expenses and have another family on welfare just because someone couldn’t keep his zipper zipped. My opinion is people have to bare the responsibility for their decisions. If they don’t have the money to give birth they do it like it was done a hundred years ago at home with your mom acting as a midwife. If people drive and don’t properly restrain their child and that child dies. If it is gross negligence charge them with manslaughter if it was simply an unfortunate accident from a one off situation society doesn’t need to punish them. They have to live knowing that they could have prevented that child’s death. Society doesn’t owe you anything. Our tax dollars are not for special interests and charity. Government is not supposed to micromanage individual choice. Laws should be created and enforced for issues dealing with society as a whole, such as if you drink and drive you go to jail. You don’t go to jail for having had alcohol you go to jail for putting the public safety at risk by driving in an impaired condition. Public drunkenness is another if you are simply drunk in public but not disrupting anyone no jail, but after you cross the line and start disrupting people you go to jail. We don’t need a million laws. We need a few simple laws that are enforced. The first law should be personal responsibility. You are responsible for your actions. You can’t blame Hostess for making Twinkies have too much sugar or McDonalds for making french fries with fat. You ate it you killed someone or you got fat, it is your fault. You can’t blame tobacco for giving you lung cancer you smoked it, it is your fault. (Except for those people that started smoking because of health claims. If you create a product and claim it helps people’s health but it turns out to kill them it is that company’s responsibility for damages, and if employees of that company knowingly withheld information they are liable and should go to jail.) I can go on and offend just about everyone because we all have things we think we are entitled to. The truth hurts, you are not the center of the universe society doesn’t owe you anything and we are going to force you to take responsibility for your own actions. Start spreading the word. I feel everyone here is missing the real point. We live in an unsafe world where people do unsafe things. One of the least of these unsafe things is what they choose to do with a child seat. All the government regulations have solved no world problems. I have been all over the world. There is homelessness, drunkenness, hate, carelessness everywhere.

If you read the newspaper you will see stories of people electrocuting themselves with hair dryers in the bathtub. People fall off ladders, cut their selves while cooking. They burn themselves in a variety of ways. Children stick their fingers in light bulb sockets and get electrocuted. That is the way of things.

Over the years I have seen things that would amaze anyone. All the times I wish I could record my memories so others can share in the insanity of life and see what I have seen. You would be able to see women that have no hope of ever being attractive putting on makeup while driving 60MPH on the freeway, coming up to slow traffic slamming their brakes then yelling who knows what. I suspect blaming the world for their own stupidity thinking it every bodies fault but their own. Men holding up and reading the Wall Street Journal at daybreak driving at breakneck speeds to rush to get that stock trade in before the market opens. People driving after drinking weaving all over the road. That is a real problem. Of all the road fatalities last year how many were caused by drunk drivers? How many were caused by careless drivers? If you really care about life do something about that. Stop worrying about a few kids. In the big picture they are irrelevant.

Children don’t listen to parents. A screaming child will distract even the most patient parent. Just because they should be in the child seat (regardless of if it is installed properly) doesn’t mean you can keep them there all the time. The statistical probability of a child being injured the few times it isn’t in the proper restraints is very small. Society needs to stop trying to regulate everything. Give police / parents a little discretion. Don’t accuse them of manslaughter just because a few kids are hurt/killed because of an accident. Bring back some common sense to the world. Stop thinking your morals are superior to everyone else’s.

If we don’t stop the insanity of regulation now in just a few decades we won’t be able to live life. We will be doped up on drugs so we don’t have ANY emotion no love, hate, fear, joy, anything. Your kids won’t be allowed to climb a tree or swim in a river. You won’t be able to hike in the forest or enjoy loud music. Your life will be grey, from morning to night. You will only be a slave to the system. The second your child says an inappropriate statement it will be pulled out of class doped up even more and be subjected to electric shock therapy. It will be taken out of your custody and given to the state because you were a bad parent because your child said an inappropriate thing. The slightest infraction you make at work or in your home will remove all your privileges. The state will own your life, you will own nothing not even your own thoughts. You already lost your genes, they are owned by big companies like Celera and Genentech, and your proteins are being patented as you read this. The food you eat isn’t yours it is owned by a biotech that will sue you if you replant the seeds. Not that you should eat a tomato that has squid DNA, or corn that has a gene from a rat, and that is just the tip of the iceberg.

All of this outrage over such an insignificant issue. Why does anyone care if government forced Toyota to come into compliance on a regulation? Toyota knew about the regulation before the vehicle was built. They chose to ignore it, and instead of everyone blaming Toyota for not designing a proper child restraint system into a pickup truck as if people should drive trucks for family cars they are complaining about the government. Trucks are work vehicles they are not for the family. If you want to have children buy a minivan or a sedan or a station wagon or even an environment killing SUV. A truck no matter what kind of cab is not a family vehicle. The government didn’t tell Toyota to disable the switch but not do anything to improve the safety. The government told Toyota to make the vehicle comply with regulations. Toyota had the choice to fix the truck anyway it chose. Toyota chose to make it less safe for small children in car seats. This should look bad for Toyota and everyone should go out and carry signs in front of Toyota dealers that say Child Killers.

For those of you who are thinking why we should force parents to not drive trucks it puts an undue burden on them if that is the only vehicle they have. My reply is that if they can’t afford a family vehicle they have no business starting a family. How will they afford the health care, the diapers, and the hospital stay for birthing? Why it is that society should be forced to bare the expenses and have another family on welfare just because someone couldn’t keep his zipper zipped.

My opinion is people have to bare the responsibility for their decisions. If they don’t have the money to give birth they do it like it was done a hundred years ago at home with your mom acting as a midwife. If people drive and don’t properly restrain their child and that child dies. If it is gross negligence charge them with manslaughter if it was simply an unfortunate accident from a one off situation society doesn’t need to punish them. They have to live knowing that they could have prevented that child’s death. Society doesn’t owe you anything. Our tax dollars are not for special interests and charity. Government is not supposed to micromanage individual choice. Laws should be created and enforced for issues dealing with society as a whole, such as if you drink and drive you go to jail. You don’t go to jail for having had alcohol you go to jail for putting the public safety at risk by driving in an impaired condition. Public drunkenness is another if you are simply drunk in public but not disrupting anyone no jail, but after you cross the line and start disrupting people you go to jail.

We don’t need a million laws. We need a few simple laws that are enforced. The first law should be personal responsibility. You are responsible for your actions. You can’t blame Hostess for making Twinkies have too much sugar or McDonalds for making french fries with fat. You ate it you killed someone or you got fat, it is your fault. You can’t blame tobacco for giving you lung cancer you smoked it, it is your fault. (Except for those people that started smoking because of health claims. If you create a product and claim it helps people’s health but it turns out to kill them it is that company’s responsibility for damages, and if employees of that company knowingly withheld information they are liable and should go to jail.)

I can go on and offend just about everyone because we all have things we think we are entitled to. The truth hurts, you are not the center of the universe society doesn’t owe you anything and we are going to force you to take responsibility for your own actions.

Start spreading the word.

]]> By: buff daddy http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/07/15/government-forces-toyota-to-make-trucks-dangerous-for-children/#comment-10286 buff daddy Tue, 18 Jul 2006 17:02:16 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/07/15/government-forces-toyota-to-make-trucks-dangerous-for-children/#comment-10286 Point taken, Dana; and well said, might I add... Point taken, Dana; and well said, might I add…

]]> By: Dana Hanley http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/07/15/government-forces-toyota-to-make-trucks-dangerous-for-children/#comment-10285 Dana Hanley Tue, 18 Jul 2006 05:55:00 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/07/15/government-forces-toyota-to-make-trucks-dangerous-for-children/#comment-10285 I think we are talking about two different things. Like I said, I have nothing against seat belt laws. Or having children properly restrained in a car seat. But we have laws regarding this. Enforce those laws, don't introduce insane regulations that are going to drive up the costs for everyone, including those who do carefully consider the safety of their children. And, as in the case cited in this article, perhaps even make things more dangerous. Having a car seat that doesn't fit into the front seat of a car will not prevent the mother who unbuckles her crying infant to console him from doing so. Nor will it ensure that it is properly installed in the back, or even used. We have laws in all 50 states regarding seat belts and car seats. Enforce them and let people bear the responsibility for their own actions, ie., prosecute them rather than seeking regulations to somehow prevent them from being negligent. I think we are talking about two different things. Like I said, I have nothing against seat belt laws. Or having children properly restrained in a car seat. But we have laws regarding this. Enforce those laws, don’t introduce insane regulations that are going to drive up the costs for everyone, including those who do carefully consider the safety of their children. And, as in the case cited in this article, perhaps even make things more dangerous. Having a car seat that doesn’t fit into the front seat of a car will not prevent the mother who unbuckles her crying infant to console him from doing so. Nor will it ensure that it is properly installed in the back, or even used. We have laws in all 50 states regarding seat belts and car seats. Enforce them and let people bear the responsibility for their own actions, ie., prosecute them rather than seeking regulations to somehow prevent them from being negligent.

]]> By: forstand http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/07/15/government-forces-toyota-to-make-trucks-dangerous-for-children/#comment-10284 forstand Tue, 18 Jul 2006 02:24:18 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/07/15/government-forces-toyota-to-make-trucks-dangerous-for-children/#comment-10284 I have a 2005 Toyota Tacoma and it has a switch that uses the ignition key to disable the passenger side air bag. If my truck is recalled I will refuse to have the switch removed. I believe I have enough smarts as to know when to disable the air bag. And to re-enable it. I don't have young children or babies but have friends who do. I have a 2005 Toyota Tacoma and it has a switch that uses the ignition key to disable the passenger side air bag.

If my truck is recalled I will refuse to have the switch removed. I believe I have enough smarts as to know when to disable the air bag. And to re-enable it.

I don’t have young children or babies but have friends who do.

]]> By: buff daddy http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/07/15/government-forces-toyota-to-make-trucks-dangerous-for-children/#comment-10283 buff daddy Mon, 17 Jul 2006 20:14:47 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/07/15/government-forces-toyota-to-make-trucks-dangerous-for-children/#comment-10283 Sorry... My comment addresses both you and Michael's post. Sorry… My comment addresses both you and Michael’s post.

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