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> <channel><title>Comments on: Phone numbers stations mystery revealed at DEFCON</title> <atom:link href="http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/</link> <description>Protect yourself from government gaffes, bureaucratic blunders and incumbent incompetence</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 02:46:51 -0400</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Choybalsan</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-33602</link> <dc:creator>Choybalsan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:38:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-33602</guid> <description>&quot;Number owned by Global crossing&quot;.....</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Number owned by Global crossing&#8221;&#8230;..</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DEBORAH</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-23272</link> <dc:creator>DEBORAH</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 19:14:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-23272</guid> <description>I was reading the posts and I can promise you that based on what I have studied in math and probability, that IF the person using a one time pad code is using a code based on
TRULY randomly chosen characters, there is virtually no way
to brute force decrypt the message. This is especially true
if the person generating the pad used something as low tech
as shuffling cards , tossing role playing &quot;dice&quot;, or had numbered or lettered balls in a rotating basket BINGO style.
I do not know if this is true, but I have heard that even today whenever countries without supercomputer technology at
their command want to generate truly random OTPs, they
actually have roomfuls of people picking balls or slips of
paper out of mechnical &quot;randomizers&quot; and typing it down on
paper that is later copied.  On the other hand, the high tech
nations use a computer or computers that pipe in Cosmic
Background Radiation, and convert it into whatever characters
they are using for that operation. The CMB &quot;noise&quot; is so chaotic as to provide THE best source of randomness for the
speed and volume they are looking for.
Deb</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was reading the posts and I can promise you that based on what I have studied in math and probability, that IF the person using a one time pad code is using a code based on<br
/> TRULY randomly chosen characters, there is virtually no way<br
/> to brute force decrypt the message. This is especially true<br
/> if the person generating the pad used something as low tech<br
/> as shuffling cards , tossing role playing &#8220;dice&#8221;, or had numbered or lettered balls in a rotating basket BINGO style.<br
/> I do not know if this is true, but I have heard that even today whenever countries without supercomputer technology at<br
/> their command want to generate truly random OTPs, they<br
/> actually have roomfuls of people picking balls or slips of<br
/> paper out of mechnical &#8220;randomizers&#8221; and typing it down on<br
/> paper that is later copied.  On the other hand, the high tech<br
/> nations use a computer or computers that pipe in Cosmic<br
/> Background Radiation, and convert it into whatever characters<br
/> they are using for that operation. The CMB &#8220;noise&#8221; is so chaotic as to provide THE best source of randomness for the<br
/> speed and volume they are looking for.<br
/> Deb</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Daryl</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-23205</link> <dc:creator>Daryl</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 09:21:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-23205</guid> <description>ATTENTION THERESA:3484 1696 8847 1912 6973 6893 6716 0334
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1984 9319END MESSAGE</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ATTENTION THERESA:</p><p>3484 1696 8847 1912 6973 6893 6716 0334<br
/> 1976 0989 3669 6119 2378 6330 1970 2384<br
/> 9726 3314 1022 5385 3935 6079 0215 6918<br
/> 8714 3792 5565 1894 0713 8383 1858 8224<br
/> 7581 7018 2224 9933 4916 8603 9545 6631<br
/> 0115 2454 0391 0747 2660 7757 0711 2576<br
/> 1984 9319</p><p>END MESSAGE</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Karl</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-23204</link> <dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:57:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-23204</guid> <description>I have been noticing someone posting what appears to be
ONE TIME PAD style code number groups under videos in a site
called YOUTUBE. I wonder if it is these same people!Karl Lawson</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been noticing someone posting what appears to be<br
/> ONE TIME PAD style code number groups under videos in a site<br
/> called YOUTUBE. I wonder if it is these same people!</p><p> Karl Lawson</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Pete</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-22845</link> <dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 18:49:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-22845</guid> <description>Fair enough putting a one time pad together, but why go in that direction in sharing the message to be decrypted? What was the point of their pseudo-secretive approach?
Also, I&#039;m not sure they have the coding right. Compare what they use to number station codes and you can immediately tell the difference. For starters, all those zeroes!Actually, I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if the Defcon people are taking credit for something for which the real reason won&#039;t come out anytime soon. No, not saying this is a genuine covert message, but I&#039;m sure people have been lining up to say this was me/us! Seen it before....Anyways, whatever, it&#039;s all good fun!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough putting a one time pad together, but why go in that direction in sharing the message to be decrypted? What was the point of their pseudo-secretive approach?<br
/> Also, I&#8217;m not sure they have the coding right. Compare what they use to number station codes and you can immediately tell the difference. For starters, all those zeroes!</p><p>Actually, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if the Defcon people are taking credit for something for which the real reason won&#8217;t come out anytime soon. No, not saying this is a genuine covert message, but I&#8217;m sure people have been lining up to say this was me/us! Seen it before&#8230;.</p><p>Anyways, whatever, it&#8217;s all good fun!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sam</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-19581</link> <dc:creator>sam</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 11:02:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-19581</guid> <description>Well back in the days, they used to use music for people to properly tune into the station they wanted to listen to..it would be played so a proper frequency was established..if its a telephone why would you need to &#039;tune&#039; in? why the music at all? i say its a prank..since there is no need for music to properly tune in..just my opinion though</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well back in the days, they used to use music for people to properly tune into the station they wanted to listen to..it would be played so a proper frequency was established..if its a telephone why would you need to &#8216;tune&#8217; in? why the music at all? i say its a prank..since there is no need for music to properly tune in..just my opinion though</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Roy</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-17981</link> <dc:creator>Roy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 03:32:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-17981</guid> <description>The concept seems to have caught on.  I&#039;ve identified at least two covert streams in the &quot;Casual Encounters&quot; section of craigslist.  One is distinct.  The other has at least two variations that may or may not indicate separate sources.  An interesting diversion.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The concept seems to have caught on.  I&#8217;ve identified at least two covert streams in the &#8220;Casual Encounters&#8221; section of craigslist.  One is distinct.  The other has at least two variations that may or may not indicate separate sources.  An interesting diversion.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: CryptoCat</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-17725</link> <dc:creator>CryptoCat</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 09:10:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-17725</guid> <description>More Mein Fraulein Mayhem?I recently saw this ad in the Baltimore Craigslist, Who can crack this code? What is this all about anyway?baltimore craigslist &gt; missed connections &gt; Mein(e) Frauleinhttp://baltimore.craigslist.org/mis/217192532.htmlMein(e) Frauleinbesucht mir jetzt http meinfraulein.blogspot.comthank you for our wonderful voip conversations this summer but now my phone is brokenQHYSI KMKUH GMLOG KBXKO FWHUK
FESGR LAMYG GYXCO JXJUF XNXAF
WFIYG SZIYH ZTXCW DEFKS EUIJR
WWMTX HXKYT GKQTC OHRNH LIACK
VTXKB KVLAH RSITH JNQJS KXPHG
LWEZS FLGNI LSMTH WKRKH KMIMO
FHKXO HAMKX HAWNH ELiebe,Klausthis is in or around Not Specifically Attributable</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More Mein Fraulein Mayhem?</p><p>I recently saw this ad in the Baltimore Craigslist, Who can crack this code? What is this all about anyway?</p><p>baltimore craigslist &gt; missed connections &gt; Mein(e) Fraulein</p><p>http://baltimore.craigslist.org/mis/217192532.html</p><p>Mein(e) Fraulein</p><p>besucht mir jetzt http meinfraulein.blogspot.com</p><p>thank you for our wonderful voip conversations this summer but now my phone is broken</p><p>QHYSI KMKUH GMLOG KBXKO FWHUK<br
/> FESGR LAMYG GYXCO JXJUF XNXAF<br
/> WFIYG SZIYH ZTXCW DEFKS EUIJR<br
/> WWMTX HXKYT GKQTC OHRNH LIACK<br
/> VTXKB KVLAH RSITH JNQJS KXPHG<br
/> LWEZS FLGNI LSMTH WKRKH KMIMO<br
/> FHKXO HAMKX HAWNH E</p><p>Liebe,</p><p>Klaus</p><p>this is in or around Not Specifically Attributable</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Crietzman.Org Weblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mein Fraulien</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-16440</link> <dc:creator>Crietzman.Org Weblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mein Fraulien</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 10:54:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-16440</guid> <description>[...] You can read more here if you&#8217;re interested. [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] You can read more here if you&#8217;re interested. [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Number station mystery revealed -</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-14955</link> <dc:creator>Number station mystery revealed -</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 18:13:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-14955</guid> <description>[...] Article HERE [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Article HERE [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Conrad Slater</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-14950</link> <dc:creator>Conrad Slater</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 17:26:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-14950</guid> <description>Whatever their meaning I thought they sounded great. Really scared the shit out of me.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever their meaning I thought they sounded great. Really scared the shit out of me.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: EveryDigg &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Phone numbers stations mystery revealed at DEFCON</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-14809</link> <dc:creator>EveryDigg &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Phone numbers stations mystery revealed at DEFCON</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:13:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-14809</guid> <description>[...] For three months, mysterious telephone numbers have been appearing on the Craigslist classified ad site which, when called, play recordings which sound much like shortwave numbers stations used by certain governments to communicate with intelligence agents in the field. Now the secret behind these phone numbers stations has been revealed.read more&#160;&#124;&#160;digg story [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For three months, mysterious telephone numbers have been appearing on the Craigslist classified ad site which, when called, play recordings which sound much like shortwave numbers stations used by certain governments to communicate with intelligence agents in the field. Now the secret behind these phone numbers stations has been revealed.read more&nbsp;|&nbsp;digg story [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: BFW Local 734 &#187; Numba</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-14680</link> <dc:creator>BFW Local 734 &#187; Numba</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 19:37:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-14680</guid> <description>[...] Phone numbers stations mystery revealed at DEFCON - Homeland Stupidity [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Phone numbers stations mystery revealed at DEFCON &#8211; Homeland Stupidity [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SecondAgenda : For Mein Haha?</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-14418</link> <dc:creator>SecondAgenda : For Mein Haha?</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 17:46:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-14418</guid> <description>[...] Well, it appears that the entire &#8220;For Mein Fraulein&#8221; was a ruse to see how well the crypto community would respond. It&#8217;s rather funny actually, but it worked out well and it was a setup from the start. Get the entire play-by-play break-down over at Homeland Stupidity and read about how it all came together. One thing is certain though, Mike&#8217;s millitary contact was right on in stating it was bullshit. [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Well, it appears that the entire &#8220;For Mein Fraulein&#8221; was a ruse to see how well the crypto community would respond. It&#8217;s rather funny actually, but it worked out well and it was a setup from the start. Get the entire play-by-play break-down over at Homeland Stupidity and read about how it all came together. One thing is certain though, Mike&#8217;s millitary contact was right on in stating it was bullshit. [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: skroo</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-14201</link> <dc:creator>skroo</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:03:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/#comment-14201</guid> <description>Gah, low on caffeine.  &quot;work tends to remain fairly cloistered with the result that .&quot; in the final paragraph above should have read, &quot;work tends to remain fairly cloistered with the result that knowing the breadth and depth of what is actually being worked on by the community isn&#039;t really possible, though there are a few high-profile cases such as with numbers stations.&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gah, low on caffeine.  &#8220;work tends to remain fairly cloistered with the result that .&#8221; in the final paragraph above should have read, &#8220;work tends to remain fairly cloistered with the result that knowing the breadth and depth of what is actually being worked on by the community isn&#8217;t really possible, though there are a few high-profile cases such as with numbers stations.&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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