Back in March I reported that Communists had brought a biological weapon of mass destruction into the state of California and were threatening to deploy it, putting everyone in the state at risk. Now they are closer than ever to killing thousands and potentially injuring everyone in the state.
The California state Assembly passed Sen. Sheila Kuehl’s weapon of mass destruction, also known as single payer health care, by a vote of 43-30. A conference committee will work out some minor differences in wording (“health care consumer” versus “patient”) and send it to Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to sign.
Schwarzenegger has previously said he would veto the bill, but that was before he came under pressure from all sides.
“I don’t believe that government should be getting in there and should start running a health care system that is kind of done and worked on by government,” Schwarzenegger said in July at a speech at the Commonwealth Club. “I think that what we should do is be a facilitator, to make the health care costs come down. The sad story in America is that our health care costs are too high, that everyone cannot afford health care.”
Labor unions and Democrats will take part in a rally on Wednesday to urge Schwarzenegger to sign the bill. — San Francisco Chronicle
The bill abolishes private health insurance and provides that government will regulate and pay for all health care, but doesn’t specify how it’s to be paid for. A commission will have to figure that out in the next few years, so there’s still time for doctors, hospitals and patients to get out of the state before a bad situation gets even worse.
The bill institutes health care rationing. Doctors have to see patients in the order in which they appear. The wait to see a specialist could balloon to that seen in other single-payer areas — years. People die while waiting to see the doctor for something that’s easily treated in a more free health care system.
And when the money eventually runs out, which it will, health care providers will see cuts in the amount of money they get from the state, or be prohibited from making improvements to their doctors’ offices and hospitals, under the bill.
So much for quality of health care. Yes, the system gives everyone health care — on paper. In reality, it gives everyone poor health care at best, and at worst, many Californians, unable to leave the state to seek better health care, will die. In addition, the best doctors will leave the state, and the best hospitals will scale back their operations or close entirely, unable to operate under a Communist health care system, further degrading the quality of health care for everyone.
If you live in California, urge Gov. Schwarzenegger to veto this bill.
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hurricane harry
Sep 05, 2006
Sadly, you’ll never convince them they’re wrong. History and their grandchildren will know before they do.
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ewen
Sep 06, 2006
Well, have you ever heard about french national healthcare system ? It works there and it’s not a “communist” country !
Phil
Sep 06, 2006
Britain has a NHS (National Health Service) it means we don’t have to pay for treatment. There may be a long waiting list but at least it’s free and dosen’t depend on the size of your wallet. We’re not communist either. Would you prefer poor people to die?
Rob Miller
Sep 06, 2006
Why can supporters of universal healthcare not argue for it properly, without restorting to “WHY DO YOU WANT TO KILL POOR PEOPLE!!!!”?
Matt
Sep 06, 2006
Healthcare doesnt depend on the size of your wallet in the US it depends on whether you have a job (indicating you are a productive citizen)… because most jobs give health benefits, and good jobs give very good benefits.
Our poor are not dying here. There is charity, they can get jobs with mediocre health benefits, etc. But in the US you can be guaranteed, 100%, that you won’t be waiting long for care.
Michael Hampton
Sep 06, 2006
That’s just the point: “universal” health care kills poor people.
Tommy Jefferson
Sep 06, 2006
Doesn’t anyone realize that if healthcare were based upon a free market, prices would come down and poor people would be able to afford health care?
I know physicians who spend 30% of their time and productive capacity doingg NOTHING but paperwork for BlueCross/Blueshield. Thus, they must charge 30% more than if they took cash like a car mechanic does.
silvermine
Sep 06, 2006
Dammit. Okay, gotta see if he vetos it. If not, looks like I have my final reason to get the hell out of here.
Tell me how it’s legal for the government to decide how I get my healthcare?
If what you really want is everyone to have health care, this is still a stupid idea. In what crazy land is it a good idea to have the government in charge of health care?? Why mess with everyone’s health care instead of just helping those who need it? Even if you think it should be the government’s job to get everyone health care (and no, I don’t think it is), this whole plan makes about as much sense as universal preschool. That would have screwed over everyone, when it would be easier and cheaper just to pay for the poor to have preschool…
God, I hate this state. Love the produce. Love the weather. Love the beaches, the mountains, and the glorious dark skies for astronomy… but this is the last straw, for me.
*sigh* The rest of the family is on the other insane coast, though. But, hell, at least I think I can afford a house there, and get the boy a better education…
Kate
Sep 06, 2006
This bill is stupid its not helping anybody. It sytreches the already groaning reasorces. Its not just gonna kill poor people its gonna kill alot of people. Why should doctors try to save lives when their reasources are demolished and thier is no money to pay to get more or to even pay them for thier sevices. This will destroy the economy and raise alreadey high taxes. If you wnat free health care move to France or Canada.
Kevin Fields
Sep 07, 2006
Federal law already prevents any hospital from turning away the poor. If somebody comes to them and need treatment, hospitals are mandated to treat them whether or not they can afford or even pay for any of the services.
Is it not odd that in the United States we have individuals fighting to move us all towards a universal health care system ran by the government, while in Canada we have individuals who are fighting to move away FROM it? While it is true that Americans are going to Canada to get their prescriptions filled because it is less expensive and faster, it is also true that for general health care Canadians have flocked to the United States for YEARS for better quality and more expediant care.
I think we should take a cue from our neighbors to the north who are telling us that government managed health care for all is NOT working.
Chris Fisher
Sep 07, 2006
California already runs structual deficits as it is. We’ve benefited from higher than expected taxes in the last couple of years due to the housing boom, but once that declines or levels off, exactly how in the blazes are we supposed to pay for this without massive tax increases?
It’s a bad idea that we can’t afford without wrecking the economy. But it’s typical of our feel good politicians who are short sighted in the extreme.
Mocha
Sep 07, 2006
Looks like California is certainly forward thinking, despite the sour predictions of the few. More power to universal health care! Except what we need is preventive medicine. What we’ve got is pseudo health for profit. If you’ve got insurance you can get a quadruple heart by pass, if you don’t, you take Vitamin C and lysine, and unclog the arteries yourself. Have at it lads! You’re being fooled by the medical establishment!
Kevin Fields
Sep 07, 2006
How is obligating a government to put tax money that it doesn’t actually have towards health care “foward thinking”?
To be honest, I have no problem with government providing health care services. I *do* have a problem with government mandating that private health care and private health insurance must be replaced with public health care services.
It isn’t going to help the costs of health care come down because any potential savings is going to be wasted by government bureaucracy.
Michael Hampton
Sep 07, 2006
Not to mention, you’re going to get health care rationing so strict that your doctor and hospital will be penalized if they don’t make you wait in line for months.
This is forward thinking and progressive?!
Anonymous
Sep 08, 2006
Silvermine, I with you 100%. Moved to sunny San Diego almost ten years ago from Omaha, NE. Love the weather. The beaches. The health-conciousness of the people who live here. But, can’t stand the cost of living. Why are we paying anywhere from 30 to 50 cents per gallon of gasoline more than anywhere else in the country? This would be the final straw, for sure. Don’t cave in, Ahnold. Veto this bill!
J. Bruno
Sep 08, 2006
Why do I feel terror at the slightest novel pain in my body? Because I know the government will not allow me to seek medical assistance unless I pay-off dozens of parasitic institutions for the privilege. I know they hold a gun my doctor’s head as he checks me.
Now if I lived in California, I could feel terror at someone else’s novel pain.
Educated Idiot
Sep 08, 2006
So wait a minute. I pay for insurance through work now and do not have
to wait in lines. I can trade that in for paying for insurance through taxes
and have to be on a waiting list. Hmmm… it seems to be a pretty easy
choice for me. Now as for the poor people who cannot pay for health
care, well, perhaps they should all move to canada if they really want
univeral health care. Or if you want to change it at home lets make it
voluntary. Those that prove they pay for insurance through work or
on their own do not pay taxes (or fees as they like the rename them
here in California) toward the “free†health care. Those that pay the
taxes for the “free†health care will have to make up the difference
for all those that cannot pay. This way both sides can have what they
want. The ones that pay the taxes can then share their money with the
poor which they seem so interested in making the rest of us do.
James
Sep 19, 2006
A.) I’m shocked nobody has brought up Medicare/Medicaid, since we already have a Federal program to pay for the health care of those who can’t afford it — it’s going to drown us all in debt if we don’t fix it in the next decade or so, but it’s there.
B.) I’m also shocked nobody has brought up illegal aliens, who are single-handedly responsible for closing at least a half-dozen hospital emergency rooms in southern Cali alone.
C.) Any nutjob that actually thinks this is a good idea is invited to ask the families of those who have died in Canada (a “first world” country by all accounts) waiting several months for a simple CAT scan that can be arranged in a few days here in the US.
The end result of all this, of course, is that Cali will have a doctor crisis, and sooner rather than later. All the good doctors will flee, to the point where the state medical board will have to start certifying straight-C-student MDs, or recognizing Nicaraguan licenses, or both. The system will rapidly eclipse every other item on the budget, and when the government is threatening to collapse under the burden, one of two things will happen. If Democrats control the federal government, Cali’s legislature will ask for (and get) a bail-out, which will keep the system shamling forward just long enough for the asshats responsible for it to retire. If Republicans control the federal government, the legislature will scrap the system and figure out a way to blame its failure on Arnie, even if he’s been out of office for several years.
You heard it here first, folks!
Dennis
Sep 20, 2006
Interesting that Canada, the UK, and France all have LOWER infant mortality rates and HIGHER life expectancies than the US. You’d think it would be the opposite–what with all of their patients falling over dead waiting and everything.
Kevin Fields
Sep 21, 2006
Canada, UK and France also have much lower population growth rates. Life expectancy isn’t merely based on the state of the healthcare system, either.
Jeff
Sep 24, 2006
“Canada, the UK, and France all have LOWER infant mortality rates”
43% of school age children in the U.S. are from the third world.
Source:
http://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/2006/section1/indicator05.asp
If the U.S. has a “third world” infant mortality rate, it’s because
increasingly, the U.S. _is_ a third world country. Most critics
of the U.S. fail to address this crucial point.
Alain Quardelle
Oct 02, 2006
HEALTH CARE BY GOVERNEMENT: IT WORKS WELL IN MY COUNTRY !!
In France,there is a national health care system, finaned by companies
and employees contributionand also by a tax on all revenues.
You can choose your practicer,and we do not experience any significant
emigration of our best doctors ro surgeons.
Why the californians could not take benefit of a sort or US RED CROSS ?
It’s a good idea to implement such a system to secure people , excluding
all the cost of comfort as TV set in your room at hospital.
Thsi will be a good exemple of american solidarity .
Jeff
Nov 14, 2006
Alain Quardelle said:
“In France,there is a national health care system, financed by companies
and employees contribution.”
California is different. We have a very large number of immigrants.
Most of the immigrants work “under the table” for cash only. They are
not part of the income tax system. They don’t pay. The only tax they
pay is sales tax and gasoline tax.
In France you don’t have this problem, or not as much. Here, it’s
a very big problem.
Nov 21, 2006
Are we feeling libertarian today?
Anonymous
Dec 13, 2006
this is booring
Jan 15, 2007
Terminator aims to destroy California health care - Homeland Stupidity
Doug
May 30, 2007
I just stumbled upon this and must say that Michael Hampton is the stupid one and he needs to be the first in line to see Michale Moore’s new movie, which is getting rave reviews from even Fox News. Michael, there would be no lines to wait and see doctors – that’s an outright LIE. Where did you get this nonsense? If you would like to know about the bill, now renamed since its last introduction, go to www.myspace.com/onecarenoworg or onecarenow.org
And here are some FACTS for you about our current system, you birdbrain.
The U.S. ranks 37th in health of its people according to the World Health Organization.
According to the Institutes of Medicine 18,000 people die a year for lack of health insurance in the U.S.
44 million people in America are without any insurance—most working full time—and including many children.
The cost of insurance precludes many from affording the premiums.
Many of those with insurance are hit with co-payments, deductibles and restrictions that keep them from getting the care they thought they would get or need.
Jeff
Aug 20, 2007
But again, the USA is different. The USA is very multi-racial (basically a new Babylon) and the different racial groups compete with each other to get goodies from the government. So while single-payer might sound good, in the USA it means that health care will be rationed out on the basis of race. If you are in a race that is in favor with the current administration, then you will get decent health care. Otherwise, you will get just the leavings. Nobody who advocates single-payer wants to face this issue.
Another issue is the rationing. Health care is in limited supply. Huge numbers of baby-boomer doctors are on the verge of retirement. If health care is declared to be “free” then people will start making massive numbers of appointments to see the dwindling supply of doctors. A rationing system will have to be imposed. There will be waiting times, perhaps many months. Think about what would happen if gasoline was made “free”. Anyone could drive up to a gas station and fill up without paying. Every station would be drained of gas in a few hours. They wouldn’t get a refill until a week later. I’m describing a Soviet style existence. That’s what single-payer would do to us. But the Left doesn’t care. They don’t care what they do to us. They just know the single-payer is “good”.
Allan
Jan 31, 2008
Anyone who wants this – especially health care providers – should read the first 10 or 15 pages of SB 840. I counted at least 8 layers of bureaucracy (not including the little fiefdoms it mandates). If this bill eventually passes, even watered down, I, as a future health care provider, am leaving the state. I would suspect there will be a mass exodus of doctors out of California. And by the way, prescription prices will not come down much, if at all, because a provision in the bill protects research at pharmaceutical companies.
Read this bill and find out who is going to be exempt (it’s almost entirely arbitrary – union shops, state employees of all stripes as well as the entire legislative branch, and anyone with a contract, such as CEO’s and directors of private companies). Otherwise, your employer will dump health care benefits the next day and let the government take it over as a means of cost savings. Doctors, because there is no tort control and because fees are set by the government, will flee California en masse. So, doctors will not see a dime’s savings in their $500,000 yearly mal-practice insurance payments. Californians will move to the border regions in order to see doctors, clinics, and hopitals along the Nevada, Oregon, and Arizona borders, where there will be freedom to practice as you wish.
Back around 1974, the Democrat-controlled US House and Senate passed the HMO bill. Now, fast-forward to what we currently have thanks to government intervention. These people think they so much smarter than you or me and that we are too stupid to know what is good for us. Reagan was right – government isn’t the answer; it’s the problem.