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	<title>Comments on: Social services involvement proposed for homeschoolers</title>
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		<title>By: Principled Discovery &#187; The life and death of homeschooling, a eulogy</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/10/social-services-involvement-proposed-for-homeschoolers/#comment-11040</link>
		<dc:creator>Principled Discovery &#187; The life and death of homeschooling, a eulogy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it were so, it was a grievous fault, And grievously hath homeschoolers answered it. Here, under leave of Katie and the rest, For Katie did her research; So did they all, all [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/10/social-services-involvement-proposed-for-homeschoolers/#comment-11039</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kat, you haven&#039;t given anything but imagined hypotheticals.  And being asked to clean the house hardly compares to the educational neglect found in so many schools which have led many to pursue homeschooling in the first place.

I don&#039;t know where you get the idea where it has anything to do with &quot;parents who utilize their children as ’slaves’ to benefit their selfish desires.&quot;  Homeschooling is hard work.  Shipping them off to public school would be a lot easier.

If parents don&#039;t care enough to actually educate their children, I don&#039;t see why they would even bother to attempt it.  And those same children would be unlikely to do much better in the public school since the number one indicator of school success is parental involvement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kat, you haven&#8217;t given anything but imagined hypotheticals.  And being asked to clean the house hardly compares to the educational neglect found in so many schools which have led many to pursue homeschooling in the first place.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know where you get the idea where it has anything to do with &#8220;parents who utilize their children as ’slaves’ to benefit their selfish desires.&#8221;  Homeschooling is hard work.  Shipping them off to public school would be a lot easier.</p>
<p>If parents don&#8217;t care enough to actually educate their children, I don&#8217;t see why they would even bother to attempt it.  And those same children would be unlikely to do much better in the public school since the number one indicator of school success is parental involvement.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/10/social-services-involvement-proposed-for-homeschoolers/#comment-11038</link>
		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish there were regulations on homeschooling children. Unfortunately, there are situations where children receive less than they deserve for education, and parents who utilize their children as &#039;slaves&#039; to benefit their selfish desires. I do not believe that all homeschool is bad, or that homeschool equals abuse. I do, however, believe that the most liberal of homeschool laws prevent the monitoring of homes that need it most. When there is no set curricula parents can tell their kids, &quot;we are going to clean house this week and call it home ec.&quot; This isn&#039;t labeled abuse by the state, nor neglect. The parent is not technically doing anything wrong. Is there an unregulated injustice here that needs addressed and corrected? Damn right!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish there were regulations on homeschooling children. Unfortunately, there are situations where children receive less than they deserve for education, and parents who utilize their children as &#8216;slaves&#8217; to benefit their selfish desires. I do not believe that all homeschool is bad, or that homeschool equals abuse. I do, however, believe that the most liberal of homeschool laws prevent the monitoring of homes that need it most. When there is no set curricula parents can tell their kids, &#8220;we are going to clean house this week and call it home ec.&#8221; This isn&#8217;t labeled abuse by the state, nor neglect. The parent is not technically doing anything wrong. Is there an unregulated injustice here that needs addressed and corrected? Damn right!</p>
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		<title>By: Owl Flutter &#187; depression in homeschooling moms</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/10/social-services-involvement-proposed-for-homeschoolers/#comment-11037</link>
		<dc:creator>Owl Flutter &#187; depression in homeschooling moms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But depression in homeschooling moms is a problem that could become public in a truly horrifying way if we fail to address it seriously within our own circles of support. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Homeschooling and public school students assaulted in Michigan - Homeland Stupidity</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/10/social-services-involvement-proposed-for-homeschoolers/#comment-11036</link>
		<dc:creator>Homeschooling and public school students assaulted in Michigan - Homeland Stupidity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 18:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In September, I commented on an editorial from the Evansville Courier &amp; Press which wanted to make homeschooling an election issue for a local school board race in response to several high profile child abuse cases which involved children who were being homeschooled. Now a candidate for Michigan&#8217;s state legislature has stated that he intends to restrict homeschooling in his state for precisely that reason according to Maureen Wittman, a Michigan homeschooler. The first bill former East Lansing Mayor Mark MEADOWS would introduce if he wins the 69th District House seat would be to revamp and put restrictions on the way home schools operate. MIRS Capitol Capsule (subscription) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In September, I commented on an editorial from the Evansville Courier &amp; Press which wanted to make homeschooling an election issue for a local school board race in response to several high profile child abuse cases which involved children who were being homeschooled. Now a candidate for Michigan&#8217;s state legislature has stated that he intends to restrict homeschooling in his state for precisely that reason according to Maureen Wittman, a Michigan homeschooler. The first bill former East Lansing Mayor Mark MEADOWS would introduce if he wins the 69th District House seat would be to revamp and put restrictions on the way home schools operate. MIRS Capitol Capsule (subscription) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/10/social-services-involvement-proposed-for-homeschoolers/#comment-11035</link>
		<dc:creator>Caroline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 02:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the &quot;powers that be&quot; are worried about abuse I suggest they take a look at the entire public school system.Teachers molesting students,stabbings in the classrooms,students shot down at their desks,metal detectors in the schools as well as bullying.Walk down any middle school or high school hallway watch and listenthen tell me if you can find ANY behavior that you would like for your child to emulate.I highly doubt it.I believe home schooling is the wave of the future and educators are merely fighting to keep thier jobs.In my town,educators had to close down one school and combine it with another district because enrollment was so low)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the &#8220;powers that be&#8221; are worried about abuse I suggest they take a look at the entire public school system.Teachers molesting students,stabbings in the classrooms,students shot down at their desks,metal detectors in the schools as well as bullying.Walk down any middle school or high school hallway watch and listenthen tell me if you can find ANY behavior that you would like for your child to emulate.I highly doubt it.I believe home schooling is the wave of the future and educators are merely fighting to keep thier jobs.In my town,educators had to close down one school and combine it with another district because enrollment was so low)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/10/social-services-involvement-proposed-for-homeschoolers/#comment-11034</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 03:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Public school amounts to brainwashing.  That is why these people will be investigated they are teaching their kids to think for themselves and not be just another cog in the machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Public school amounts to brainwashing.  That is why these people will be investigated they are teaching their kids to think for themselves and not be just another cog in the machine.</p>
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		<title>By: Blank</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/10/social-services-involvement-proposed-for-homeschoolers/#comment-11033</link>
		<dc:creator>Blank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 20:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here just go to my website if you wanna know the real truth about abuse not just child abuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here just go to my website if you wanna know the real truth about abuse not just child abuse.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/10/social-services-involvement-proposed-for-homeschoolers/#comment-11032</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah...unfortunately, I think it is.  I had quite an interesting discussion about that statement...my tagline on my email used to be, &quot;I&#039;ve seen the village.  I don&#039;t want it raising my children.&quot;  Unfortunately, Mrs. Clinton doesn&#039;t seem to know much about the actual sentiment behind that African saying because it does not mean that the state raises the children.

I agree that the freedom to raise your children is a basic human right...I&#039;d say that it is your responsibility as well.  It is fine to delegate that to another person through public or private school, but ultimately the parent should be the one disciplining, training and helping the child to be successful in school and in life.

State intervention over that presupposes that the education of the child is the primary interest of the state rather than the parent.  That already, even if the intervention is minimal, usurps parental rights and makes educating your children a privilege rather than a right.

I like states like Texas where all you need to do to homeschool is not send your kids to school.  I don&#039;t mind it here in NE, either.  All I have to do is turn in a plan and the state acknowledges that I homeschool (as opposed to giving permission).  Technically, state law allows them to check homeschools, but they have decided to not do that at this time.  And I have to keep attendance, but I don&#039;t have to turn it in.  Not too bad, and it helps with truancy issues, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah&#8230;unfortunately, I think it is.  I had quite an interesting discussion about that statement&#8230;my tagline on my email used to be, &#8220;I&#8217;ve seen the village.  I don&#8217;t want it raising my children.&#8221;  Unfortunately, Mrs. Clinton doesn&#8217;t seem to know much about the actual sentiment behind that African saying because it does not mean that the state raises the children.</p>
<p>I agree that the freedom to raise your children is a basic human right&#8230;I&#8217;d say that it is your responsibility as well.  It is fine to delegate that to another person through public or private school, but ultimately the parent should be the one disciplining, training and helping the child to be successful in school and in life.</p>
<p>State intervention over that presupposes that the education of the child is the primary interest of the state rather than the parent.  That already, even if the intervention is minimal, usurps parental rights and makes educating your children a privilege rather than a right.</p>
<p>I like states like Texas where all you need to do to homeschool is not send your kids to school.  I don&#8217;t mind it here in NE, either.  All I have to do is turn in a plan and the state acknowledges that I homeschool (as opposed to giving permission).  Technically, state law allows them to check homeschools, but they have decided to not do that at this time.  And I have to keep attendance, but I don&#8217;t have to turn it in.  Not too bad, and it helps with truancy issues, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 20:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this what Hillary meant when she said &quot;It takes a village to raise a child&quot;?

Seriously, this is the logical conclusion of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/05/california-communists-pass-single-payer-health-care/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Socialist&lt;/a&gt; mindset that pervades the American left.  The Government knows what your health-care should cost.  The Government knows what you should drink.  The Government knows what you should eat.  The Government knows what your kids should learn.  The Government knows what&#039;s OK to think.  (Hey, I think I have the beginnings of a pretty bad song there).

Anyway, freedom to raise your (minor) children as you see fit is a basic human right.  I know the proposed changes in state law aren&#039;t going to *end* homeschooling per se, but adding state intervention in every homeschooling situation is the first step down a slippery slope.

I&#039;m not sure if we&#039;re going to home-school my daughter yet, but you *will* have to pry her from my cold, dead hands before somebody tells me I can&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this what Hillary meant when she said &#8220;It takes a village to raise a child&#8221;?</p>
<p>Seriously, this is the logical conclusion of the <a href="http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/05/california-communists-pass-single-payer-health-care/" rel="nofollow">Socialist</a> mindset that pervades the American left.  The Government knows what your health-care should cost.  The Government knows what you should drink.  The Government knows what you should eat.  The Government knows what your kids should learn.  The Government knows what&#8217;s OK to think.  (Hey, I think I have the beginnings of a pretty bad song there).</p>
<p>Anyway, freedom to raise your (minor) children as you see fit is a basic human right.  I know the proposed changes in state law aren&#8217;t going to *end* homeschooling per se, but adding state intervention in every homeschooling situation is the first step down a slippery slope.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if we&#8217;re going to home-school my daughter yet, but you *will* have to pry her from my cold, dead hands before somebody tells me I can&#8217;t.</p>
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