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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/20/hospitals-not-taking-free-money-for-illegal-immigrants/#comment-11256</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they  should all go back!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they  should all go back!</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/20/hospitals-not-taking-free-money-for-illegal-immigrants/#comment-11255</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe illegal aliens have no rights in the United States. They are a burden on our government. They are a burden on our healthcare system and they should all be gathered up and deported. Illegals have got it all wrong, as does the ACLU and the Human Rights Commission. This is &quot;The Land of the Free.&quot; This is NOT the &quot;Land Where Everything is Free.&quot; I see no problem with a hospital providing first aid, but a hospital or doctor should never be MANDATED to give up their resources to provide extensive or long term health care to &quot;illegals&quot;. Those individuals that say &quot;society owes it to them&quot; should empty their bank accounts and give it all to the &quot;illegals&quot;. They would change their tune if they were mandated to &quot;give it all&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe illegal aliens have no rights in the United States. They are a burden on our government. They are a burden on our healthcare system and they should all be gathered up and deported. Illegals have got it all wrong, as does the ACLU and the Human Rights Commission. This is &#8220;The Land of the Free.&#8221; This is NOT the &#8220;Land Where Everything is Free.&#8221; I see no problem with a hospital providing first aid, but a hospital or doctor should never be MANDATED to give up their resources to provide extensive or long term health care to &#8220;illegals&#8221;. Those individuals that say &#8220;society owes it to them&#8221; should empty their bank accounts and give it all to the &#8220;illegals&#8221;. They would change their tune if they were mandated to &#8220;give it all&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Fields</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/20/hospitals-not-taking-free-money-for-illegal-immigrants/#comment-11254</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Fields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 08:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, to be sure, a lot of the problem is definitely GREED. While I&#039;m not the biggest John Stossel fan, several months ago he did a 20/20 segment looking at how hospitals treat the insured and uninsured differently. Uninsured patients at several hospitals often were paying 2x-3x more for the same services compared to insured patients. Even when offering to settle a bill, hospitals and their doctors  by and large appear to be gouging the uninsured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, to be sure, a lot of the problem is definitely GREED. While I&#8217;m not the biggest John Stossel fan, several months ago he did a 20/20 segment looking at how hospitals treat the insured and uninsured differently. Uninsured patients at several hospitals often were paying 2x-3x more for the same services compared to insured patients. Even when offering to settle a bill, hospitals and their doctors  by and large appear to be gouging the uninsured.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Grabman</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/20/hospitals-not-taking-free-money-for-illegal-immigrants/#comment-11253</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Grabman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 06:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MAYBE &quot;illegal immigrants&quot; aren&#039;t the problem.  Maybe it&#039;s uninsured patients</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MAYBE &#8220;illegal immigrants&#8221; aren&#8217;t the problem.  Maybe it&#8217;s uninsured patients</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Fields</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/20/hospitals-not-taking-free-money-for-illegal-immigrants/#comment-11252</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Fields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 22:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the government and society has made it nearly impossible to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps, then we&#039;re going to have to have a system that gives a hand-up.

And as screwed up as the various systems that we have here in the United States are, I&#039;ve been very grateful that they have been available when I have been on hard times a time or two. A little bit of assistance can go quite a long ways.

Unfortunately for every little bit of assistance I *have* received, I&#039;ve also had to deal with a lot of MOUTH from people who automatically assume that I&#039;m lazy and unwilling to do anything from myself and it would be better if myself and my family just die or starve to death rather than a few of their measly tax dollars being spent. This is why people are made to feel guilty when they find themselves in such circumstances.

As for the Katrina victims, a good part of the reason why they have to wait on government assistance is because the government is HINDERING them from doing so. You may want to learn more about what you speak before you speak again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the government and society has made it nearly impossible to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps, then we&#8217;re going to have to have a system that gives a hand-up.</p>
<p>And as screwed up as the various systems that we have here in the United States are, I&#8217;ve been very grateful that they have been available when I have been on hard times a time or two. A little bit of assistance can go quite a long ways.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for every little bit of assistance I *have* received, I&#8217;ve also had to deal with a lot of MOUTH from people who automatically assume that I&#8217;m lazy and unwilling to do anything from myself and it would be better if myself and my family just die or starve to death rather than a few of their measly tax dollars being spent. This is why people are made to feel guilty when they find themselves in such circumstances.</p>
<p>As for the Katrina victims, a good part of the reason why they have to wait on government assistance is because the government is HINDERING them from doing so. You may want to learn more about what you speak before you speak again.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hampton</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/20/hospitals-not-taking-free-money-for-illegal-immigrants/#comment-11251</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hampton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We even have teaching hospitals which will take patients for free so that people can get medical training under supervision from more experienced doctors.

We&#039;d probably have more creative ideas like this without government screwing everything up.

This is not an impossible problem, and it doesn&#039;t require government intervention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We even have teaching hospitals which will take patients for free so that people can get medical training under supervision from more experienced doctors.</p>
<p>We&#8217;d probably have more creative ideas like this without government screwing everything up.</p>
<p>This is not an impossible problem, and it doesn&#8217;t require government intervention.</p>
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		<title>By: Sickofthiscrap</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/20/hospitals-not-taking-free-money-for-illegal-immigrants/#comment-11250</link>
		<dc:creator>Sickofthiscrap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By anyone saying that it should be mandated that hospitals take in someone regardless of their ability to pay is a socialist for thinking that we need someone else to provide for us when we cannot provide for ourselves. What some B.S. Hospitals are businesses like anything else, and like other businesses they should have the right to refuse service. There used to be charities and churches that helped someone with this stuff, and it seems like people have been lead to feel guilty for seeking that assistance from their fellow man. As far as I&#039;m concerned this should be Darwinâ€™s theory at it&#039;s core. Survival of the fittest. Such as the hurricane katrina victims. If they didn&#039;t have the smarts to get the hell out of dodge before they where told to do so by the government, then it&#039;s on them, not anyone else. There is no excuse for them to be waiting in trailers for big brother to rebuild there lives, they need to do it themselves!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By anyone saying that it should be mandated that hospitals take in someone regardless of their ability to pay is a socialist for thinking that we need someone else to provide for us when we cannot provide for ourselves. What some B.S. Hospitals are businesses like anything else, and like other businesses they should have the right to refuse service. There used to be charities and churches that helped someone with this stuff, and it seems like people have been lead to feel guilty for seeking that assistance from their fellow man. As far as I&#8217;m concerned this should be Darwinâ€™s theory at it&#8217;s core. Survival of the fittest. Such as the hurricane katrina victims. If they didn&#8217;t have the smarts to get the hell out of dodge before they where told to do so by the government, then it&#8217;s on them, not anyone else. There is no excuse for them to be waiting in trailers for big brother to rebuild there lives, they need to do it themselves!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Fields</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/20/hospitals-not-taking-free-money-for-illegal-immigrants/#comment-11249</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Fields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 00:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There has to be some give somewhere, though. Things would be much worse if we allowed for hospitals to turn away patients because they could not afford the services. At the same time, things are just about as bad if the government is put in charge of running a public hospital. I have no issues with mandating all hospitals provide care for all patients, but the government IMO has to provide the money to help them do so. And of all things that one can bitch about as far as what happens with taxpayer dollars, using it to provide healthcare is pretty much on the bottom of my list. At least until we can stop paying for unnecessary wars, bridges to nowhere and unjustified fattening of politician&#039;s bank accounts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has to be some give somewhere, though. Things would be much worse if we allowed for hospitals to turn away patients because they could not afford the services. At the same time, things are just about as bad if the government is put in charge of running a public hospital. I have no issues with mandating all hospitals provide care for all patients, but the government IMO has to provide the money to help them do so. And of all things that one can bitch about as far as what happens with taxpayer dollars, using it to provide healthcare is pretty much on the bottom of my list. At least until we can stop paying for unnecessary wars, bridges to nowhere and unjustified fattening of politician&#8217;s bank accounts.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hampton</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/20/hospitals-not-taking-free-money-for-illegal-immigrants/#comment-11248</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hampton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely, and that&#039;s the whole point: You &lt;em&gt;should&lt;/em&gt; help your fellow man, but it&#039;s quite morally wrong to force someone to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely, and that&#8217;s the whole point: You <em>should</em> help your fellow man, but it&#8217;s quite morally wrong to force someone to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Fields</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Fields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you do not believe that all of our sick should be taken care of, then for your sake I hope that you never fall on hard times and find that you are turned away because of your inability to pay for your care.

As wealthy a nation as the United States is, both in money and in helping hands, there should be no reason why any individual who is ill and in need of care cannot receive it. And for a nation as steeped in religious philosophy as we are - Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Islam, etc. - there is no excuse for us to say that the poor should suffer and go without. Even if you do not subscribe to any religious belief, at the very least human morality and decency should prompt you to help your fellow man, woman and child when they need it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you do not believe that all of our sick should be taken care of, then for your sake I hope that you never fall on hard times and find that you are turned away because of your inability to pay for your care.</p>
<p>As wealthy a nation as the United States is, both in money and in helping hands, there should be no reason why any individual who is ill and in need of care cannot receive it. And for a nation as steeped in religious philosophy as we are &#8211; Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Islam, etc. &#8211; there is no excuse for us to say that the poor should suffer and go without. Even if you do not subscribe to any religious belief, at the very least human morality and decency should prompt you to help your fellow man, woman and child when they need it.</p>
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