Comments on: REAL ID costs: $11 billion, double time at DMV http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/ Protect yourself from government gaffes, bureaucratic blunders and incumbent incompetence Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:19:36 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: StealthBadger.net » Blog Archive » Market-based Solutions.http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-45995 StealthBadger.net » Blog Archive » Market-based Solutions. Wed, 30 May 2007 21:05:47 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-45995 [...] problems you didn’t know you had (whether or not you do, or they are actual problems), then selling you the solution to them. Most market-based solutions are created to resolve these manufactured demands, quite often since [...] [...] problems you didn’t know you had (whether or not you do, or they are actual problems), then selling you the solution to them. Most market-based solutions are created to resolve these manufactured demands, quite often since [...]

]]> By: DHS: You’ll take a national ID and you’ll like it - Homeland Stupidityhttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-43031 DHS: You’ll take a national ID and you’ll like it - Homeland Stupidity Wed, 09 May 2007 06:37:31 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-43031 [...] The unmitigated gall of this bureaucrat. Not only does he say that states will come around and implement REAL ID, well, just listen to this guy. “Understandably it’s going to create some burden in terms of cost for states,” he said. “But it’s righteous. And shame on us if we don’t take the steps now to address known vulnerabilities because the alternative is sitting back and hoping you get lucky.” — Washington Post [...] [...] The unmitigated gall of this bureaucrat. Not only does he say that states will come around and implement REAL ID, well, just listen to this guy. “Understandably it’s going to create some burden in terms of cost for states,” he said. “But it’s righteous. And shame on us if we don’t take the steps now to address known vulnerabilities because the alternative is sitting back and hoping you get lucky.” — Washington Post [...]

]]> By: Richard Littlehttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-38419 Richard Little Wed, 28 Mar 2007 21:31:18 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-38419 It is very helpful to the collections industry and junk mail industry that everyone MUST have their physical address on their id.I for one will rent a motel room and declare this as my ONLY address.Homeless persons residing in motels can't be denied a drivers license if they are legally qualified to hold one.First loophole. It is very helpful to the collections industry and junk mail industry that everyone MUST have their physical address on their id.I for one will rent a motel room and declare this as my ONLY address.Homeless persons residing in motels can’t be denied a drivers license if they are legally qualified to hold one.First loophole.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-35535 Anonymous Wed, 07 Mar 2007 04:33:00 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-35535 To clarify the above statement I do know that Strom Thurman was a Senator for South Carolina. How long? Forty Seven years and some change. And his father was a Judge and he a What? A Lawyer. To clarify the above statement I do know that Strom Thurman was a Senator for South Carolina. How long? Forty Seven years
and some change. And his father was a Judge and he a What? A Lawyer.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-35533 Anonymous Wed, 07 Mar 2007 04:21:03 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-35533 The Government is trying to dupe all into believing that we need this and it, for our very safety. It is a cause and effect situation. They create a problem and pretend to be the solution, in order to gain trust and control. That is what, to govern means. They govern us, we do not govern them. "For the people by the people", is balony. In order to stop the madness, it would take the American community of citizens to impeach the whole lot, right down to the smallest town mayor. Change the Constitution of America and states, to only allow 4 year terms maximum, in any elected office; this will keep the elected officials from gaining access or forming the good old boy network, in any political party. Furthermore, No lawyers would be allowed to run for office (state or federal). Making the laws and then turning around and interpreting the laws you have just made for your own gain, is just bad for business. Can you say Pharisee! If people would just visit the websites of their states General Assembly and look at how many re-elected officials they have in both house and senate and compare how many ratified laws that they have either sponsored, or proposed and then compare how long that individual has been in office. you might be surprised at what they are not doing for the people. Yet, year after year and term after term, they still remain, representing themselves, filling a void. Example, even though he is dead, Strom Thurman-South Carolina...need I say more. The Government is trying to dupe all into believing that we need this and it, for our very safety. It is a cause and effect situation. They create a problem and pretend to be the solution, in order to gain trust and control. That is what, to govern means. They govern us, we do not govern them.

“For the people by the people”, is balony. In order to stop the madness, it would take the American community of citizens to impeach the whole lot, right down to the smallest town mayor. Change the Constitution of America and states, to only allow 4 year terms maximum, in any elected office; this will keep the elected officials from gaining access or forming the good old boy network, in any political party. Furthermore, No lawyers would be allowed to run for office (state or federal). Making the laws and then turning around and interpreting the laws you have just made for your own gain, is just bad for business. Can you say Pharisee!

If people would just visit the websites of their states General Assembly and look at how many re-elected officials they have in both house and senate and compare how many ratified laws that they have either sponsored, or proposed and then compare how long that individual has been in office.
you might be surprised at what they are not doing for the people. Yet, year after year and term after term, they still remain, representing themselves, filling a void. Example,
even though he is dead, Strom Thurman-South Carolina…need I say more.

]]> By: DHS issues REAL ID draft regulations - Homeland Stupidityhttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-34652 DHS issues REAL ID draft regulations - Homeland Stupidity Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:08:15 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-34652 [...] “Followers of REAL ID know that delaying implementation helps a national ID go forward by giving the companies and organizations that sustain themselves on these kinds of projects time to shake the federal money tree and get this $11 billion surveillance mandate funded,” writes Jim Harper, director of information policy studies at the Cato Institute. [...] [...] “Followers of REAL ID know that delaying implementation helps a national ID go forward by giving the companies and organizations that sustain themselves on these kinds of projects time to shake the federal money tree and get this $11 billion surveillance mandate funded,” writes Jim Harper, director of information policy studies at the Cato Institute. [...]

]]> By: anonymoushttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-33107 anonymous Sun, 18 Feb 2007 04:55:55 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-33107 It sound like it is leading up to biblical prophesy. Now is the time to start making plans to leave this land and/or repent and to give your life to christ. It sound like it is leading up to biblical prophesy. Now is the time to start making plans to leave this land and/or repent and to give your life to christ.

]]> By: Rhttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-31157 R Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:51:08 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-31157 I will take my family and our corporation out of this country. The bible says antichrist will not have control over the country of Jordon. Way to go U.S.A, walk right into the mark of the beast. And He (God the father) that commanded you not to take the mark will cause sores to come upon you. One 6 stands for numbering, one 6 stands for mankind and one 6 stands for stigma or stuck in. Don't take the mark.There are a lot of people that understand this and wont walk as sheep to a slaughter. I will take my family and our corporation out of this country. The bible says antichrist will not have control over the country of Jordon. Way to go U.S.A, walk right into the mark of the beast. And He (God the father) that commanded you not to take the mark will cause sores to come upon you. One 6 stands for numbering, one 6 stands for mankind and one 6 stands for stigma or stuck in. Don’t take the mark.There are a lot of people that understand this and wont walk as sheep to a slaughter.

]]> By: Baikal3http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-25711 Baikal3 Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:41:08 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-25711 It is actually much worse than you think.I've read the text of the RealID Act carefully. It requires the states to ensure that each applicant for a driver's licence show a proof of name, citizenship/immigration status, social security number AND the current address; the law also requires that the state verify the authenticity of EACH of the documents submitted to satisfy the above requirement with the issuing agency. Here is a direct quote from the law:"Before issuing a driver's license or identification card to a person, the State shall verify, with the issuing agency, the issuance, validity, and completeness of EACH document required to be presented by the person under paragraph (1) or (2)."Let us think about what this means in practice regarding, for example, the proof of address. When someone moves to a new address, what kind of a proof of that address could they produce? Presumably a lease or a mortgage statement or a utility bill, say a cable bill. Does that mean that someone from the state DMV will have to physically call the cable company and talk to someone there? How much time and effort will that take (especially given how long we have to spend being put on hold when calling any utility company)? And what about all the privacy protection laws? Can a cable company even legally disclose their customer info to a third party over the phone? All this seems rather insane to me.I really don't understand why the states are not fighting harder against this unconstitutional madness! It is actually much worse than you think.

I’ve read the text of the RealID Act carefully. It requires the states to ensure that each applicant for a driver’s licence show a proof of name, citizenship/immigration status, social security number AND the current address; the law also requires that the state verify the authenticity of EACH of the documents submitted to satisfy the above requirement with the issuing agency. Here is a direct quote from the law:

“Before issuing a driver’s license or identification card to a person, the State shall verify, with the issuing agency, the issuance, validity, and completeness of EACH document required to be presented by the person under paragraph (1) or (2).”

Let us think about what this means in practice regarding, for example, the proof of address. When someone moves to a new address, what kind of a proof of that address could they produce? Presumably a lease or a mortgage statement or a utility bill, say a cable bill. Does that mean that someone from the state DMV will have to physically call the cable company and talk to someone there? How much time and effort will that take (especially given how long we have to spend being put on hold when calling any utility company)? And what about all the privacy protection laws? Can a cable company even legally disclose their customer info to a third party over the phone? All this seems rather insane to me.

I really don’t understand why the states are not fighting harder against this unconstitutional madness!

]]> By: Chertoff: Real ID not “invasion of privacy” - Homeland Stupidityhttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-25315 Chertoff: Real ID not “invasion of privacy” - Homeland Stupidity Sun, 17 Dec 2006 11:49:06 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-25315 [...] Then there’s the money. REAL ID is an $11 billion unfunded mandate that states must comply with or risk losing federal highway funding. States can’t absorb all the costs associated with compliance, so REAL ID compliant driver’s license costs could exceed $100 each. [...] [...] Then there’s the money. REAL ID is an $11 billion unfunded mandate that states must comply with or risk losing federal highway funding. States can’t absorb all the costs associated with compliance, so REAL ID compliant driver’s license costs could exceed $100 each. [...]

]]> By: Joe Plotnickhttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-24131 Joe Plotnick Wed, 06 Dec 2006 01:34:15 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-24131 Idiotic law making our life harder, I guess the next law is to deport US citizens to Mexico or Cuba, this law is close to doing it so. Many people will have problems with this law, a lot more people than we can imagine. There goes the smell of freedom and Lincon's USA. Welcome to the free society that is running scared and scarificing its freedom by a boat load. It's not too late to send concerns to congress, not too late to refuse to have driving lic. all in all. We might as well brake the law, we are being forced to brake it as citizens by depriving us our freedoms. Why bother paying insurance and politicians salary. If the people can muster courage and say no, we can get our voices heard. Feel sorry for you, my poor fellow citizens. Idiotic law making our life harder, I guess the next law is to deport US citizens to Mexico or Cuba, this law is close to doing it so. Many people will have problems with this law, a lot more people than we can imagine. There goes the smell of freedom and Lincon’s USA. Welcome to the free society that is running scared and scarificing its freedom by a boat load. It’s not too late to send concerns to congress, not too late to refuse to have driving lic. all in all. We might as well brake the law, we are being forced to brake it as citizens by depriving us our freedoms. Why bother paying insurance and politicians salary. If the people can muster courage and say no, we can get our voices heard.
Feel sorry for you, my poor fellow citizens.

]]> By: Madness and Follyhttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-22302 Madness and Folly Sun, 19 Nov 2006 20:16:10 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-22302 <strong>How bad will it get...</strong>Underreported. Unbelievably bureaucratic. How would you like the mental giants at your local DMV to now have the power to deny you, well, everything? REAL ID could do that for you. And while the report cited in the post linked above shows even the... How bad will it get…

Underreported. Unbelievably bureaucratic. How would you like the mental giants at your local DMV to now have the power to deny you, well, everything? REAL ID could do that for you.
And while the report cited in the post linked above shows even the…

]]> By: NHFreehttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-22076 NHFree Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:22:58 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-22076 As of November 2006, only New Hampshire has failed to implement Real ID, and they still haven't decided for sure what to do. As of November 2006, only New Hampshire has failed to implement Real ID, and they still haven’t decided for sure what to do.

]]> By: BobbieMachttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-21591 BobbieMac Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:17:56 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-21591 Everyone Please go to WWW.endtime.com and WWW.nonationalID.com Also go to the holy Bible.Revelation 13 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive F21 a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. six. (666) Everyone Please go to WWW.endtime.com and WWW.nonationalID.com
Also go to the holy Bible.

Revelation 13
13:16
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive F21 a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
13:17
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
13:18
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
six. (666)

]]> By: Robert Bigginshttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-21584 Robert Biggins Mon, 13 Nov 2006 19:14:39 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-21584 Which states are not needed the Real ID for May 11, 2008? Arizona? New Hampshire? That I might know to be prepare to move out of Florida to there so I can stay freedom. Now we have one year and 6 months left. Please sent me information. Thank you. Which states are not needed the Real ID for May 11, 2008? Arizona? New Hampshire? That I might know to be prepare to move out of Florida to there so I can stay freedom. Now we have one year and 6 months left. Please sent me information. Thank you.

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