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	<title>Comments on: REAL ID costs: $11 billion, double time at DMV</title>
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		<title>By: StealthBadger.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Market-based Solutions.</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-11291</link>
		<dc:creator>StealthBadger.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Market-based Solutions.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 21:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] problems you didn&#8217;t know you had (whether or not you do, or they are actual problems), then selling you the solution to them. Most market-based solutions are created to resolve these manufactured demands, quite often since [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] problems you didn&#8217;t know you had (whether or not you do, or they are actual problems), then selling you the solution to them. Most market-based solutions are created to resolve these manufactured demands, quite often since [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DHS: You&#8217;ll take a national ID and you&#8217;ll like it - Homeland Stupidity</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-11290</link>
		<dc:creator>DHS: You&#8217;ll take a national ID and you&#8217;ll like it - Homeland Stupidity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 06:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The unmitigated gall of this bureaucrat. Not only does he say that states will come around and implement REAL ID, well, just listen to this guy. &#8220;Understandably it&#8217;s going to create some burden in terms of cost for states,&#8221; he said. &#8220;But it&#8217;s righteous. And shame on us if we don&#8217;t take the steps now to address known vulnerabilities because the alternative is sitting back and hoping you get lucky.&#8221; &#8212; Washington Post [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The unmitigated gall of this bureaucrat. Not only does he say that states will come around and implement REAL ID, well, just listen to this guy. &#8220;Understandably it&#8217;s going to create some burden in terms of cost for states,&#8221; he said. &#8220;But it&#8217;s righteous. And shame on us if we don&#8217;t take the steps now to address known vulnerabilities because the alternative is sitting back and hoping you get lucky.&#8221; &#8212; Washington Post [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Little</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-11289</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Little</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 21:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is very helpful to the collections industry and junk mail industry that everyone MUST have their physical address on their id.I for one will rent a motel room and declare this as my ONLY address.Homeless persons residing in motels can&#039;t be denied a drivers license if they are legally qualified to hold one.First loophole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very helpful to the collections industry and junk mail industry that everyone MUST have their physical address on their id.I for one will rent a motel room and declare this as my ONLY address.Homeless persons residing in motels can&#8217;t be denied a drivers license if they are legally qualified to hold one.First loophole.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-11288</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 04:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To clarify the above statement I do know that Strom Thurman was a Senator for South Carolina. How long? Forty Seven years
and some change. And his father was a Judge and he a What? A Lawyer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify the above statement I do know that Strom Thurman was a Senator for South Carolina. How long? Forty Seven years<br />
and some change. And his father was a Judge and he a What? A Lawyer.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 04:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Government is trying to dupe all into believing that we need this and it, for our very safety. It is a cause and effect situation. They create a problem and pretend to be the solution, in order to gain trust and control. That is what, to govern means. They govern us, we do not govern them.

 &quot;For the people by the people&quot;, is balony. In order to stop the madness, it would take the American community of citizens to impeach the whole lot, right down to the smallest town mayor. Change the Constitution of America and states, to only allow 4 year terms maximum, in any elected office; this will keep the elected officials from gaining access or forming the good old boy network, in any political party. Furthermore, No lawyers would be allowed to run for office (state or federal). Making the laws and then turning around and interpreting the laws you have just made for your own gain, is just bad for business. Can you say Pharisee!

 If people would just visit the websites of their states General Assembly and look at how many re-elected officials they have in both house and senate and compare how many ratified laws that they have either sponsored, or proposed and then compare how long that individual has been in office.
you might be surprised at what they are not doing for the people. Yet, year after year and term after term, they still remain, representing themselves, filling a void. Example,
even though he is dead, Strom Thurman-South Carolina...need I say more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Government is trying to dupe all into believing that we need this and it, for our very safety. It is a cause and effect situation. They create a problem and pretend to be the solution, in order to gain trust and control. That is what, to govern means. They govern us, we do not govern them.</p>
<p> &#8220;For the people by the people&#8221;, is balony. In order to stop the madness, it would take the American community of citizens to impeach the whole lot, right down to the smallest town mayor. Change the Constitution of America and states, to only allow 4 year terms maximum, in any elected office; this will keep the elected officials from gaining access or forming the good old boy network, in any political party. Furthermore, No lawyers would be allowed to run for office (state or federal). Making the laws and then turning around and interpreting the laws you have just made for your own gain, is just bad for business. Can you say Pharisee!</p>
<p> If people would just visit the websites of their states General Assembly and look at how many re-elected officials they have in both house and senate and compare how many ratified laws that they have either sponsored, or proposed and then compare how long that individual has been in office.<br />
you might be surprised at what they are not doing for the people. Yet, year after year and term after term, they still remain, representing themselves, filling a void. Example,<br />
even though he is dead, Strom Thurman-South Carolina&#8230;need I say more.</p>
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		<title>By: DHS issues REAL ID draft regulations - Homeland Stupidity</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-11286</link>
		<dc:creator>DHS issues REAL ID draft regulations - Homeland Stupidity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Followers of REAL ID know that delaying implementation helps a national ID go forward by giving the companies and organizations that sustain themselves on these kinds of projects time to shake the federal money tree and get this $11 billion surveillance mandate funded,&#8221; writes Jim Harper, director of information policy studies at the Cato Institute. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Followers of REAL ID know that delaying implementation helps a national ID go forward by giving the companies and organizations that sustain themselves on these kinds of projects time to shake the federal money tree and get this $11 billion surveillance mandate funded,&#8221; writes Jim Harper, director of information policy studies at the Cato Institute. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-11285</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 04:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sound like it is leading up to biblical prophesy. Now is the time to start making plans to leave this land and/or repent and to give your life to christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sound like it is leading up to biblical prophesy. Now is the time to start making plans to leave this land and/or repent and to give your life to christ.</p>
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		<title>By: R</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-11284</link>
		<dc:creator>R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will take my family and our corporation out of this country. The bible says antichrist will not have control over the country of Jordon. Way to go U.S.A, walk right into the mark of the beast. And He (God the father) that commanded you not to take the mark will cause sores to come upon you. One 6 stands for numbering, one 6 stands for mankind and one 6 stands for stigma or stuck in. Don&#039;t take the mark.There are a lot of people that understand this and wont walk as sheep to a slaughter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will take my family and our corporation out of this country. The bible says antichrist will not have control over the country of Jordon. Way to go U.S.A, walk right into the mark of the beast. And He (God the father) that commanded you not to take the mark will cause sores to come upon you. One 6 stands for numbering, one 6 stands for mankind and one 6 stands for stigma or stuck in. Don&#8217;t take the mark.There are a lot of people that understand this and wont walk as sheep to a slaughter.</p>
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		<title>By: Baikal3</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-11283</link>
		<dc:creator>Baikal3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is actually much worse than you think.

I&#039;ve read the text of the RealID Act carefully. It requires the states to ensure that each applicant for a driver&#039;s licence show a proof of name, citizenship/immigration status, social security number AND the current address; the law also requires that the state verify the authenticity of EACH of the documents submitted to satisfy the above requirement with the issuing agency. Here is a direct quote from the law:

&quot;Before issuing a driver&#039;s license or identification card to a person, the State shall verify, with the issuing agency, the issuance, validity, and completeness of EACH document required to be presented by the person under paragraph (1) or (2).&quot;

Let us think about what this means in practice regarding, for example, the proof of address. When someone moves to a new address, what kind of a proof of that address could they produce? Presumably a lease or a mortgage statement or a utility bill, say a cable bill. Does that mean that someone from the state DMV will have to physically call the cable company and talk to someone there? How much time and effort will that take (especially given how long we have to spend being put on hold when calling any utility company)? And what about all the privacy protection laws? Can a cable company even legally disclose their customer info to a third party over the phone? All this seems rather insane to me.

I really don&#039;t understand why the states are not fighting harder against this unconstitutional madness!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is actually much worse than you think.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read the text of the RealID Act carefully. It requires the states to ensure that each applicant for a driver&#8217;s licence show a proof of name, citizenship/immigration status, social security number AND the current address; the law also requires that the state verify the authenticity of EACH of the documents submitted to satisfy the above requirement with the issuing agency. Here is a direct quote from the law:</p>
<p>&#8220;Before issuing a driver&#8217;s license or identification card to a person, the State shall verify, with the issuing agency, the issuance, validity, and completeness of EACH document required to be presented by the person under paragraph (1) or (2).&#8221;</p>
<p>Let us think about what this means in practice regarding, for example, the proof of address. When someone moves to a new address, what kind of a proof of that address could they produce? Presumably a lease or a mortgage statement or a utility bill, say a cable bill. Does that mean that someone from the state DMV will have to physically call the cable company and talk to someone there? How much time and effort will that take (especially given how long we have to spend being put on hold when calling any utility company)? And what about all the privacy protection laws? Can a cable company even legally disclose their customer info to a third party over the phone? All this seems rather insane to me.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t understand why the states are not fighting harder against this unconstitutional madness!</p>
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		<title>By: Chertoff: Real ID not &#8220;invasion of privacy&#8221; - Homeland Stupidity</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/09/25/real-id-costs-11-billion-double-time-at-dmv/#comment-11282</link>
		<dc:creator>Chertoff: Real ID not &#8220;invasion of privacy&#8221; - Homeland Stupidity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 11:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Then there&#8217;s the money. REAL ID is an $11 billion unfunded mandate that states must comply with or risk losing federal highway funding. States can&#8217;t absorb all the costs associated with compliance, so REAL ID compliant driver&#8217;s license costs could exceed $100 each. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Then there&#8217;s the money. REAL ID is an $11 billion unfunded mandate that states must comply with or risk losing federal highway funding. States can&#8217;t absorb all the costs associated with compliance, so REAL ID compliant driver&#8217;s license costs could exceed $100 each. [...]</p>
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