Comments on: Homeland Stupidity Voter's Guide http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/10/15/homeland-stupidity-voters-guide/ Protect yourself from government gaffes, bureaucratic blunders and incumbent incompetence Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:25:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Anonymous http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/10/15/homeland-stupidity-voters-guide/#comment-11551 Anonymous Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:01:07 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/10/15/homeland-stupidity-voters-guide/#comment-11551 GET A LIFE! GET A LIFE!

]]> By: Jason http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/10/15/homeland-stupidity-voters-guide/#comment-11550 Jason Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:05:28 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/10/15/homeland-stupidity-voters-guide/#comment-11550 Corporations <i>are</i> derivations of the state - that's what a corporate charter is. But the answer is not to regulate them, because then the government is wasting time regulating itself! The answer is to return them to what they were pre-1880's - limited capital organizations whose purpose was to conduct a specific public works project, make a profit, and then be dissolved after dividing the profit among their shareholders. But either way, gov't needs to get out of the way and let us run the country, like we have been for quite a while now. Corporations are derivations of the state – that’s what a corporate charter is. But the answer is not to regulate them, because then the government is wasting time regulating itself! The answer is to return them to what they were pre-1880′s – limited capital organizations whose purpose was to conduct a specific public works project, make a profit, and then be dissolved after dividing the profit among their shareholders.

But either way, gov’t needs to get out of the way and let us run the country, like we have been for quite a while now.

]]> By: J. Bruno http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/10/15/homeland-stupidity-voters-guide/#comment-11549 J. Bruno Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:48:38 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/10/15/homeland-stupidity-voters-guide/#comment-11549 Matt, I want you to think carefully about this for just a minute: why is it that millions of boys and men flocked to these factories to perform hard labor for a pittance? Did something change to force them? No. What they do not teach in the socialist automaton factories, we call "public schools," is that the mortality rate for children under the age of ten was something like %70 before the industrial revolution. The population exploded during this period. Individuals who would otherwise have died of starvation were given a chance to live by these "robber barons." (Incidentally, compare those young workers of the industrial revolution with the emo-idiot-MySpace youth of today. Which had a greater claim to life and desire for it?) Matt, I want you to think carefully about this for just a minute: why is it that millions of boys and men flocked to these factories to perform hard labor for a pittance? Did something change to force them? No. What they do not teach in the socialist automaton factories, we call “public schools,” is that the mortality rate for children under the age of ten was something like %70 before the industrial revolution. The population exploded during this period. Individuals who would otherwise have died of starvation were given a chance to live by these “robber barons.”

(Incidentally, compare those young workers of the industrial revolution with the emo-idiot-MySpace youth of today. Which had a greater claim to life and desire for it?)

]]> By: Rob Miller http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/10/15/homeland-stupidity-voters-guide/#comment-11548 Rob Miller Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:39:49 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/10/15/homeland-stupidity-voters-guide/#comment-11548 Matt, I don't think we'd ever see industrial-era working conditions in the developed world even if corporations had twice the power they do now. You have to remember that in the 19th century—in Britain at least—things like child labour, working ~18 hour days, etc. were commonplace; societal attitudes have changed tremendously since then (and I have to add that it was societal attitudes that changed the law, not vice versa—see the Chartist movement, for example). I think people get screwed now and will always get screwed, by corporations, by the government and by countless other people. All government regulation does is shift the ways in which people get screwed. In fact, it probably makes it worse, since corporations have to find new and inventive ways to defeat the legislative restrictions placed upon them by the government—making it ridiculously hard for most people, never mind stupid people, to work out just what kind of deal they're getting when they buy a service or product. If government regulation does nothing to stop people getting screwed, surely one has to ask exactly what the point of it is? Tangling things up in bureaucracy and red tape for no gain whatsoever is not my idea of fun—I don't know about you! Matt, I don’t think we’d ever see industrial-era working conditions in the developed world even if corporations had twice the power they do now. You have to remember that in the 19th century—in Britain at least—things like child labour, working ~18 hour days, etc. were commonplace; societal attitudes have changed tremendously since then (and I have to add that it was societal attitudes that changed the law, not vice versa—see the Chartist movement, for example).

I think people get screwed now and will always get screwed, by corporations, by the government and by countless other people. All government regulation does is shift the ways in which people get screwed. In fact, it probably makes it worse, since corporations have to find new and inventive ways to defeat the legislative restrictions placed upon them by the government—making it ridiculously hard for most people, never mind stupid people, to work out just what kind of deal they’re getting when they buy a service or product.

If government regulation does nothing to stop people getting screwed, surely one has to ask exactly what the point of it is? Tangling things up in bureaucracy and red tape for no gain whatsoever is not my idea of fun—I don’t know about you!

]]> By: Matt http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/10/15/homeland-stupidity-voters-guide/#comment-11547 Matt Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:29:27 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/10/15/homeland-stupidity-voters-guide/#comment-11547 There are a few problems with your view of economics. The first is that we have many instances in history where corporations were allowed to exist without legislation and we were violently screwed by them. Ex. The industrial revolution both here and in Britain. 20 years after the industrial revolution in Britain and the average life expectancy of working men was 20 years. The robber barons during our own industrial revolution also managed to screw thousands of people. It may be that in a world filled with people that are as smart and as interested as you and I, that corporations would not be able to screw people. However, it's the government that keeps drug companies honest about their claims, and keeps (more) doctors from giving you inferior medication because they are paid to. Other people are not going to stop screwing you just because the government isn't. There are a few problems with your view of economics. The first is that we have many instances in history where corporations were allowed to exist without legislation and we were violently screwed by them. Ex. The industrial revolution both here and in Britain. 20 years after the industrial revolution in Britain and the average life expectancy of working men was 20 years. The robber barons during our own industrial revolution also managed to screw thousands of people. It may be that in a world filled with people that are as smart and as interested as you and I, that corporations would not be able to screw people. However, it’s the government that keeps drug companies honest about their claims, and keeps (more) doctors from giving you inferior medication because they are paid to. Other people are not going to stop screwing you just because the government isn’t.

]]> By: Q http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/10/15/homeland-stupidity-voters-guide/#comment-11546 Q Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:17:55 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/10/15/homeland-stupidity-voters-guide/#comment-11546 I said it before, and I'll write it again. what we need to do is stop voting. change the channel ignore the debates, and the elections, it's all meaningless. Or, we could have progress quotas or something. these idiots don't preform, out the door; send in the replacement. ever notice that these people seem to keep making up laws that nobody likes? isn't that like a dictatorship? Don't we get a say? Isn't it our choice? For the people, by the people-- am I missing something? These people swore to UPHOLD the Constitution and the LAW, not change it to satisfy their own sick agendas; that alone is grounds for impeachment. --- the thing that really bugs me is, they know their time in office is limited, so they are going to only enjoy that new power for a few years, then they are subject to the same crap as anyone else--what's the real motivation then? are they doing it for someone else? someone unseen? someone that doesn't have any term limits to contend with? I suppose that's what lobbying is all about. "Public Servant" means one who serves the public, not corporations, and certainly doesn't spy on them, or strip away their freedom one day at a time.. i guess to really make my point. i'll say it this way. I love the place I live, but I hate the people in charge. I said it before, and I’ll write it again. what we need to do is stop voting. change the channel ignore the debates, and the elections, it’s all meaningless.

Or, we could have progress quotas or something. these idiots don’t preform, out the door; send in the replacement. ever notice that these people seem to keep making up laws that nobody likes? isn’t that like a dictatorship? Don’t we get a say? Isn’t it our choice? For the people, by the people– am I missing something?

These people swore to UPHOLD the Constitution and the LAW, not change it to satisfy their own sick agendas; that alone is grounds for impeachment. — the thing that really bugs me is, they know their time in office is limited, so they are going to only enjoy that new power for a few years, then they are subject to the same crap as anyone else–what’s the real motivation then? are they doing it for someone else? someone unseen? someone that doesn’t have any term limits to contend with? I suppose that’s what lobbying is all about. “Public Servant” means one who serves the public, not corporations, and certainly doesn’t spy on them, or strip away their freedom one day at a time.. i guess to really make my point. i’ll say it this way. I love the place I live, but I hate the people in charge.

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