our military has been slowly brought to work against us- the hierarcy is working for european interests( the old reich)
the event called 911 could not have happened without military help.

so sad.

The potential for hidden and unchecked damage to our complex and rich
American society by misuse of these abovementioned resources is a
reality and with all due respect to the thousands of honest-hardworking
government employees proper inquiry and oversight must be applied.

Presently, and clearly, there is a lack of critically important
congressional oversight in regards to SAPs and a number of other
government operations and programs. It is very important that we do
not tend to ‘shutdown’ discourse about these issues. There is a good
deal of evidence that [at least] strongly indicates that military and
other governmental resources have been misused by the present
administration in quite a few areas; this in combination with the
historic knowledge that we have that some of these resources, and
“resources akin,” have been abused, sometimes seriously, in the not
so distant past points to an urgent need for inquiry and highlights
the legal requirements for congressional oversight.

The potential for hidden and unchecked damage to our complex and rich
American society by misuse of these abovementioned abuse is a reality
and with all due respect to the thousands of honest-hardworking
government employees proper inquiry and oversight must be applied.

Here is the mission statement direct from their website:

“The mission of the 902d Military Intelligence Group is to protect Army Forces, Secrets, Technologies, and Facilities by detecting, neutralizing, and exploiting Foreign Intelligence Services and International Terrorist Threats.”

The many offices spread across the US receive thousands of calls relating to a whole spectrum of potential threats to continental US based forces. Like I said, most of the threats are not credible, but a few are. Communication of the many threats of course goes back to HQ in Fort Meade. But all the conspiracy theorists in this country and abroad see Fort Meade and think NSA. The 902nd’s reputation therefore is tainted by the main stream media’s negative perception of their neighbor, the National Security Agency. That makes sense, and so, you have a handful of the uninformed passing along all sorts of misinformation, i.e. Michael Hampton.

The 902nd’s role in the Florida Quaker story is muddied. Did the 902nd send in operatives to report on their activities? Um, you are court martialed, fined and often sent to a place called Leavenworth for doing that.

I believe that some twisted individuals choose to use this incident to stoke the flames of fire not against a military facility at Fort Meade, but against the present administration in Washington. I believe our own Constitution will destroy our country simply through wars of rhetorical translation. And I believe the threats to the United States are not only foreign, but domestic. These threats reside in the hearts of those venemous propagandists who unconsciously undermine the future of this country, by setting us viciously upon each other. The divisive behavior of both conservatives and liberals will fan the flames of destruction that many of our enemies, both foreign and domestic truly seek.

Local, a mile or two away is nowhere near. The fire endangered nothing of NSA.

There is no reason to mention NSA in any and every media report about another intelligence organization, because it doesn’t begin to meet the “so what” criteria. In this case, NSA facilities were in no danger from the fire, NSA and 902d have completely different missions and chains of command, and mentioning NSA provided no clarity to the report. In fact, throwing NSA into the story probably just confused folks.

Anthony, 902d is not maintaining such a database. I believe you may be confusing organizations.

Jeff, this left me utterly confused: “If you are the type of person who would shoot another American who lives in a state that is peacefully leaving the union then you are an American I would point my rifle at, aim to kill and pull the trigger.”
I thought the unpleasantness of 1860-1865 had been settled. Could you please clarify this?

Mark M, saying what you would do, versus what 902d is actually authorized to do, probably added to the confusion. Just because someone is planning or is holding a demonstration doesn’t mean there’s automatically a potential threat. It’s why there’s a separation between intelligence collection on US persons and law enforcement doing its keeping order job.

There’s an awful lot of raw emotion here, that has nothing to do with the fire. Rather than calling names and making sweeping generalizations, why not try and explain what you believe and why, rather than blaming a political position/party/agenda?

Just sayin’…

You might have swore to protect the Constitution but does anyone even bother to read the Constitution they swore to uphold? I honestly doubt it so I honestly doubt that when the time comes, you or anyone else in the Army will lift a finger to defend the Constitution.

The threat to our Constitution and our liberties has already been identified. You are it. It is units like the 902nd and the NSA and other parts of the Federal government that have become the biggest threat to our freedom.

Nice to see talk about my old unit the 902nd MI Group. And it was freaky to see my old Headquarters in flames. I worked in that exact part of the building a few years back.

So what is all this nonsense that I see being spoken about The Deuce? First of all the 902nd MI is not a National Security Agency organization. NSA has a bigger mission. The 902nd has a different mission that focuses on those threats to military facilities here in the United States. To associate the 902nd with NSA just shows one’s ignorance of the facts.

Collecting on Quakers? Well hey, if the Quakers, the Boy Scouts, the Taliban or the League of Women Voters were going to stage a protest at a military facility in the United States, then as one wanting to protect our military facilities in the United States, I would certainly be inclined to collect information on any such threats. Yeah it may just be a peaceful protest, but it poses the potential for a threat.

Now to infiltrate organizations to collect on law abiding citizens, that is against the law. But to report threats or acts of violence against military personnel and facilities is justifiable.

We in the military took/take an oath to protect the Constitution of the United States from all enemies both foreign and domestic. And while most Americans see no problem with fighting foreign threats, the notion of fighting domestic threats all of a sudden becomes a debate over freedom of speech. Fighting the enemy within is a grey area oft debated in our society. But threats to our constitution exist in many forms throughout this society. Those threats need to be identified, investigated and if necessary, eliminated. The problem though, is figuring out who the real enemy of the United States Constitution is, or should I say, are? Enemies come in many shapes sizes and constituencies. Some are elected, some are the unaffected or ignorant class, and then some are the cowards that veil their image of self worth, with the rights which they use as a camouflage for their wicked and self prserving designs.