Comments on: Chertoff: Real ID not "invasion of privacy" http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/12/17/chertoff-real-id-not-invasion-of-privacy/ Protect yourself from government gaffes, bureaucratic blunders and incumbent incompetence Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:25:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Servant http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/12/17/chertoff-real-id-not-invasion-of-privacy/#comment-12614 Servant Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:25:38 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/12/17/chertoff-real-id-not-invasion-of-privacy/#comment-12614 Let it happen soilders... Those who will not get off their couch will see Real ID for what it is (as it applies to them) only when it becomes reality. Only then will you hear the uproar. Some laws can be made to be repealed by the way of protest, however, this one will not. I assure you. The reason? The federal government does not care what we say about this or about us anymore, they are pushing ahead with this despite hearing and the voice of resistance. Just like the states, the majority of the people will resist on the grounds of the cost in dollars rather than the cost to their freedoms and more importantly the cost to their salvation. In the words of Christ ... "... all these things must come to pass in order that prophesy might be fulfilled...". (These words apply here too.) I have come to learn these things by firsthand experience. Having told people about Real ID and it's implications, including Christians,(Five pastors were among those people), they did not care, instead they paid me lip service - gasping at the thought that this might be a prelude to the prophesy spoken of in the bible, telling me they thought so as well, then never mentioned it again, inquired further about it, looked into it, or debated what a Christian, or non-Christian, should do about it. Having mailed people articles on the subject, they responded in like manner. (Recall Matthew 13: 14 - 17. (Fellow Christians, please don't get me wrong, now... I am only saying it is similar.)) I am sure you have all heard people say "If you didn't do anything wrong you have nothing to worry about." If those people have had the unfortunate experience of being audited, by the I.R.S, then, from what I have heard, they would not say that about the government, or any arm of it. Real ID comes from the same government that does the audits. Reiterating my opening sentence, let it happen, because only then will the cry be loud enough to be heard. Wether it is of any consequence it would have, if only, effectively been a much needed warning of who, in reality, is in control. (Young Christian, read Revelation 12:13 through 17 and compare it to Matthew 1:21 through 2:17. You will learn that the "serpent" resides in the "dragon".) Thanks for considering my somewhat long winded post. Let it happen soilders…
Those who will not get off their couch will see Real ID for what it is (as it applies to them) only when it becomes reality. Only then will you hear the uproar. Some laws can be made to be repealed by the way of protest, however, this one will not. I assure you. The reason? The federal government does not care what we say about this or about us anymore, they are pushing ahead with this despite hearing and the voice of resistance. Just like the states, the majority of the people will resist on the grounds of the cost in dollars rather than the cost to their freedoms and more importantly the cost to their salvation.
In the words of Christ … “… all these things must come to pass in order that prophesy might be fulfilled…”. (These words apply here too.)
I have come to learn these things by firsthand experience. Having told people about Real ID and it’s implications, including Christians,(Five pastors were among those people), they did not care, instead they paid me lip service – gasping at the thought that this might be a prelude to the prophesy spoken of in the bible, telling me they thought so as well, then never mentioned it again, inquired further about it, looked into it, or debated what a Christian, or non-Christian, should do about it.
Having mailed people articles on the subject, they responded in like manner.
(Recall Matthew 13: 14 – 17. (Fellow Christians, please don’t get me wrong, now… I am only saying it is similar.))

I am sure you have all heard people say “If you didn’t do anything wrong you have nothing to worry about.” If those people have had the unfortunate experience of being audited, by the I.R.S, then, from what I have heard, they would not say that about the government, or any arm of it. Real ID comes from the same government that does the audits.

Reiterating my opening sentence, let it happen, because only then will the cry be loud enough to be heard. Wether it is of any consequence it would have, if only, effectively been a much needed warning of who, in reality, is in control.

(Young Christian, read Revelation 12:13 through 17 and compare it to Matthew 1:21 through 2:17. You will learn that the “serpent” resides in the “dragon”.)

Thanks for considering my somewhat long winded post.

]]> By: Another Balker http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/12/17/chertoff-real-id-not-invasion-of-privacy/#comment-12613 Another Balker Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:01:12 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/12/17/chertoff-real-id-not-invasion-of-privacy/#comment-12613 WHY hasn't this damned Real ID nonsense been quashed and put to rest PERMANENTLY? WHAT is it going to take to wake up enough Americans to make enough NOISE and STINK about this Real ID crap, to KILL it forever?? And while you're on the topic of Real ID, what about all the new FUSION CENTERS proliferating across America, in the name of so-called security?? Americans have the RIGHT to privacy! But to enforce that right, we need to speak out loudly against all these invasive schemes. Starting NOW!--before it's too late! WHY hasn’t this damned Real ID nonsense been quashed and put to rest PERMANENTLY?
WHAT is it going to take to wake up enough Americans to make enough NOISE and STINK about this Real ID crap, to KILL it forever??
And while you’re on the topic of Real ID, what about all the new FUSION CENTERS proliferating across America, in the name of so-called security?? Americans have the RIGHT to privacy! But to enforce that right, we need to speak out loudly against all these invasive schemes.
Starting NOW!–before it’s too late!

]]> By: Mike http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/12/17/chertoff-real-id-not-invasion-of-privacy/#comment-12612 Mike Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:59:37 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/12/17/chertoff-real-id-not-invasion-of-privacy/#comment-12612 It's just another step that the New World Order is pushing. The US is not the country it used to be. Personal freedoms are being discarded every day by the federal government. Just take the time to actually read through the Patriot Act! Washington State opting out is great, although the reasoning behind the opt out is a financial and not moral issue with the state. Our state government seems to not have any concerns with morality at all, over almost any issue you can name. It’s just another step that the New World Order is pushing. The US is not the country it used to be. Personal freedoms are being discarded every day by the federal government. Just take the time to actually read through the Patriot Act!
Washington State opting out is great, although the reasoning behind the opt out is a financial and not moral issue with the state. Our state government seems to not have any concerns with morality at all, over almost any issue you can name.

]]> By: DHS: You’ll take a national ID and you’ll like it - Homeland Stupidity http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/12/17/chertoff-real-id-not-invasion-of-privacy/#comment-12611 DHS: You’ll take a national ID and you’ll like it - Homeland Stupidity Wed, 09 May 2007 06:35:17 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/12/17/chertoff-real-id-not-invasion-of-privacy/#comment-12611 [...] DHS has previously said that the new system would not amount to a national ID (it will) and would not be an invasion of people’s privacy, (it will also) assertions that are absurd on their face and insulting to all Americans. [...] [...] DHS has previously said that the new system would not amount to a national ID (it will) and would not be an invasion of people’s privacy, (it will also) assertions that are absurd on their face and insulting to all Americans. [...]

]]> By: Who wants a national ID? - Homeland Stupidity http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/12/17/chertoff-real-id-not-invasion-of-privacy/#comment-12610 Who wants a national ID? - Homeland Stupidity Wed, 02 May 2007 22:32:51 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/12/17/chertoff-real-id-not-invasion-of-privacy/#comment-12610 [...] “Make no mistake, this is a national identification system that will affect your everyday life,” said Melissa Ngo, Director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center’s Identification and Surveillance Project. “Critics of the REAL ID scheme are called anti-security, but it is not anti-security to reject a national identification system that will harm our national security and make it easier for criminals to pretend to be law-abiding Americans.” [...] [...] “Make no mistake, this is a national identification system that will affect your everyday life,” said Melissa Ngo, Director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center’s Identification and Surveillance Project. “Critics of the REAL ID scheme are called anti-security, but it is not anti-security to reject a national identification system that will harm our national security and make it easier for criminals to pretend to be law-abiding Americans.” [...]

]]> By: tphill37 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/12/17/chertoff-real-id-not-invasion-of-privacy/#comment-12609 tphill37 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:15:30 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/12/17/chertoff-real-id-not-invasion-of-privacy/#comment-12609 Will REAL ID prevent terrorism, illegal immigration, or crime? By itself of course not. No one single measure or act will stop any of these illegal activities. So by your rational, these steps shouldn't be taken at all. I disagree. Most security professionals would tell you that security must be done in layers. This is one layer of many that may be taken to make document forgery more difficult. You say that this will just be circumvented and it won't help. Do you think there is a problem at all? If you do what steps should be taken to correct them? One thing the gov. needs to do is to be open with the public and have some foresight to address people's concerns. Show us how you can safegaurd and balance these issues that must be addressed. By passing this as rider legislation without any debate makes you look shady. This in turn makes everyone start to play politics instead of trying to solve problems. Typical government dopes. Will REAL ID prevent terrorism, illegal immigration, or crime? By itself of course not. No one single measure or act will stop any of these illegal activities. So by your rational, these steps shouldn’t be taken at all. I disagree. Most security professionals would tell you that security must be done in layers. This is one layer of many that may be taken to make document forgery more difficult. You say that this will just be circumvented and it won’t help. Do you think there is a problem at all? If you do what steps should be taken to correct them? One thing the gov. needs to do is to be open with the public and have some foresight to address people’s concerns. Show us how you can safegaurd and balance these issues that must be addressed. By passing this as rider legislation without any debate makes you look shady. This in turn makes everyone start to play politics instead of trying to solve problems. Typical government dopes.

]]> By: JUST ME http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/12/17/chertoff-real-id-not-invasion-of-privacy/#comment-12608 JUST ME Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:54:44 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/12/17/chertoff-real-id-not-invasion-of-privacy/#comment-12608 The Real-ID nightmare needs to be stopped; and nightmares are stopped by WAKING PEOPLE UP. I like the idea of an ALL-STAR NO REAL-ID TELETHON! Let's get Willie Nelson, for starters, up there on stage, with his hole-y geetar!, belting out some tunes AGAINST THE FEDS NOSING IN EVERY POCKET OF OUR LIVES! Let's contact every known Celebrity Maverick and then some... Here's a few possibilities: Oprah Winfrey, Robert Redford, Al Pacino, Barbra Steisand, David Letterman, you know-- the RICH AND POWERFUL who are NOT cowed down by the Powers That Be in Wash.!!!! Let's get Obama up there too, and Al Gore, and any other politician who APPEARS to have half a brain and can recognize the DANGERS in this damnedable Real-ID scheme. We need CLOUT (Powerful People with Big Names & Big Bucks) to put a stop to this thing. Where we gonna get it???? Any Ideas??? The Real-ID nightmare needs to be stopped; and nightmares are stopped by WAKING PEOPLE UP.

I like the idea of an ALL-STAR NO REAL-ID TELETHON!

Let’s get Willie Nelson, for starters, up there on stage, with his hole-y geetar!, belting out some tunes AGAINST THE FEDS NOSING IN EVERY POCKET OF OUR LIVES!

Let’s contact every known Celebrity Maverick and then some…

Here’s a few possibilities:
Oprah Winfrey, Robert Redford, Al Pacino, Barbra Steisand, David Letterman,
you know– the RICH AND POWERFUL who are NOT cowed down by the Powers That Be in Wash.!!!!

Let’s get Obama up there too, and Al Gore, and any other politician who APPEARS to have half a brain and can recognize the DANGERS in this damnedable Real-ID scheme.

We need CLOUT (Powerful People with Big Names & Big Bucks) to put a stop to this thing.

Where we gonna get it????

Any Ideas???

]]> By: Washington state pretends to reject REAL ID - Homeland Stupidity http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/12/17/chertoff-real-id-not-invasion-of-privacy/#comment-12607 Washington state pretends to reject REAL ID - Homeland Stupidity Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:33:56 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/12/17/chertoff-real-id-not-invasion-of-privacy/#comment-12607 [...] Homeland Security secretary Michael Chertoff has previously said that REAL ID compliant licenses and identification cards would protect individuals’ privacy — at least from non-governmental threats. But those aren’t the serious threats to your privacy. [...] [...] Homeland Security secretary Michael Chertoff has previously said that REAL ID compliant licenses and identification cards would protect individuals’ privacy — at least from non-governmental threats. But those aren’t the serious threats to your privacy. [...]

]]> By: Washington state accepts REAL ID, gets bonus - Homeland Stupidity http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/12/17/chertoff-real-id-not-invasion-of-privacy/#comment-12606 Washington state accepts REAL ID, gets bonus - Homeland Stupidity Tue, 27 Mar 2007 02:19:50 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/12/17/chertoff-real-id-not-invasion-of-privacy/#comment-12606 [...] Yes, he really said that. What he can’t seem to understand is that he is the threat. [...] [...] Yes, he really said that. What he can’t seem to understand is that he is the threat. [...]

]]> By: Ted http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/12/17/chertoff-real-id-not-invasion-of-privacy/#comment-12605 Ted Tue, 06 Feb 2007 14:24:29 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/12/17/chertoff-real-id-not-invasion-of-privacy/#comment-12605 Maine and Montana have already rejected REAL ID. Who's next? Maine and Montana have already rejected REAL ID. Who’s next?

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