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	<title>Comments on: War on Drugs targets asparagus?</title>
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		<title>By: Hugh Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/10/war-on-drugs-targets-asparagus/#comment-13024</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 04:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the lawmakers hoist a glass of alcohol to their lips and condemn the man with a joint in his lips; who is the hypocrite here?  As the lawmaker pulls his gun and shoots a drug user to death, it&#039;s obvious those guns kill a lot harder than those drugs. As the lawmaker spreads his poison herbicide on foreign lands, the poison finds it&#039;s way into the ocean and fish and back into the mouth of the lawmaker, who is the idiot here? God, please rid the world of the lawmaker hypocrites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the lawmakers hoist a glass of alcohol to their lips and condemn the man with a joint in his lips; who is the hypocrite here?  As the lawmaker pulls his gun and shoots a drug user to death, it&#8217;s obvious those guns kill a lot harder than those drugs. As the lawmaker spreads his poison herbicide on foreign lands, the poison finds it&#8217;s way into the ocean and fish and back into the mouth of the lawmaker, who is the idiot here? God, please rid the world of the lawmaker hypocrites.</p>
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		<title>By: Scoop&#8217;s Views &#187; Blog Archive &#187; War on Drugs targeting &#8230; asparagus?</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/10/war-on-drugs-targets-asparagus/#comment-13023</link>
		<dc:creator>Scoop&#8217;s Views &#187; Blog Archive &#187; War on Drugs targeting &#8230; asparagus?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 04:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] According to information posted by Michael Hampton in a story posted at Homeland Stupidity, it seems the U.S.&#8217; War on Drugs goes a little deeper than many considered, including some in Black Ops. The &#8220;War on Drugs&#8221; actually goes so far as to target an enemy of many American children: asparagus. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] According to information posted by Michael Hampton in a story posted at Homeland Stupidity, it seems the U.S.&#8217; War on Drugs goes a little deeper than many considered, including some in Black Ops. The &#8220;War on Drugs&#8221; actually goes so far as to target an enemy of many American children: asparagus. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Savage</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/10/war-on-drugs-targets-asparagus/#comment-13022</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There never really was anything dangerous about coca in the first place.  It was the western idea to grind the stuff up, run it through a bunch of chemicals and make an innocuous plant into a deadly drug that creates addicts.

Of course, isn&#039;t that what America&#039;s about....getting a public addicted to your &quot;product&quot; and enjoying the profits from it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There never really was anything dangerous about coca in the first place.  It was the western idea to grind the stuff up, run it through a bunch of chemicals and make an innocuous plant into a deadly drug that creates addicts.</p>
<p>Of course, isn&#8217;t that what America&#8217;s about&#8230;.getting a public addicted to your &#8220;product&#8221; and enjoying the profits from it?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hampton</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/10/war-on-drugs-targets-asparagus/#comment-13021</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hampton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kris, you continue to miss the point, and I suspect at this point it&#039;s intentional. I&#039;ve made my position perfectly clear, and your attempts to twist my words aren&#039;t fooling anybody.

Come back when you&#039;re ready and willing to have a reasonable discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kris, you continue to miss the point, and I suspect at this point it&#8217;s intentional. I&#8217;ve made my position perfectly clear, and your attempts to twist my words aren&#8217;t fooling anybody.</p>
<p>Come back when you&#8217;re ready and willing to have a reasonable discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris Overstreet</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/10/war-on-drugs-targets-asparagus/#comment-13020</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris Overstreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t matter why the tariffs came down- what matters is that they DID come down.

Otherwise, what you&#039;re saying is, &quot;You did what I wanted you to, but not for the right reasons, so I want you to stop doing it!&quot;

If you support unilateral free trade, I repeat, quit whining about how American asparagus farmers are losing their jobs... or, if you still think Americans should grow their own crops and make a living at it, abandon unilateral free trade as a position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter why the tariffs came down- what matters is that they DID come down.</p>
<p>Otherwise, what you&#8217;re saying is, &#8220;You did what I wanted you to, but not for the right reasons, so I want you to stop doing it!&#8221;</p>
<p>If you support unilateral free trade, I repeat, quit whining about how American asparagus farmers are losing their jobs&#8230; or, if you still think Americans should grow their own crops and make a living at it, abandon unilateral free trade as a position.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hampton</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/10/war-on-drugs-targets-asparagus/#comment-13019</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hampton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 06:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kris, I&#039;m sorry you&#039;re still confused.

So I&#039;ll try to make this even simpler.

I don&#039;t like tariffs on principle. But this &quot;elimination&quot; of a tariff wasn&#039;t done to right a wrong, the imposition of the tariff in the first place. Indeed, it only applies to Peru and Colombia! It was done to foster a drug war policy of coca eradication in South America.

If they had eliminated the tariff on asparagus for every country, then I could hardly complain.

I&#039;m not saying the farmers who have stopped growing asparagus or gone out of business should have been protected by tariffs, and if you somehow got that mistaken impression, I&#039;m sorry.

I&#039;m saying that the government should not grant special treatment to Peru and Colombia in order to facilitate its War on Drugs. Indeed, it should abandon the failed policy entirely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kris, I&#8217;m sorry you&#8217;re still confused.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;ll try to make this even simpler.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like tariffs on principle. But this &#8220;elimination&#8221; of a tariff wasn&#8217;t done to right a wrong, the imposition of the tariff in the first place. Indeed, it only applies to Peru and Colombia! It was done to foster a drug war policy of coca eradication in South America.</p>
<p>If they had eliminated the tariff on asparagus for every country, then I could hardly complain.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying the farmers who have stopped growing asparagus or gone out of business should have been protected by tariffs, and if you somehow got that mistaken impression, I&#8217;m sorry.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m saying that the government should not grant special treatment to Peru and Colombia in order to facilitate its War on Drugs. Indeed, it should abandon the failed policy entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris Overstreet</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/10/war-on-drugs-targets-asparagus/#comment-13018</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris Overstreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 15:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, no, Michael. Your post here spends most of its length, including quotations, whining about how terrible it is that American agriculture is suffering because of a ZERO TARIFF policy. If the government had instituted the zero tariffs for any other reason- for example as a trade-off for Columbian military aid in Afghanistan- the canneries would still have moved and the farmers would still have gone bust.

For whatever reason, the government has taken a step in the direction you advocate- unilateral free trade- and, as a result, American agriculture has suffered. So far as Washington state asparagus growers are concerned, the drug war is irrelevant. All they know is that produce from Columbia and Peru is so cheap that they cannot compete... so they don&#039;t. Instead they either find crops that Columbia and Peru don&#039;t grow, or- more frequently, according to your quotations- they just quit business.

Failure of uncompetitive business is a natural consequence of free trade. If you don&#039;t like the idea of American farmers going out of business, maybe you should rethink your unilateral trade policy... but you most certainly shouldn&#039;t blame it on drug policy.

And if you stick to your guns on unilateral free trade, then quit whining about how it puts Americans out of work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, no, Michael. Your post here spends most of its length, including quotations, whining about how terrible it is that American agriculture is suffering because of a ZERO TARIFF policy. If the government had instituted the zero tariffs for any other reason- for example as a trade-off for Columbian military aid in Afghanistan- the canneries would still have moved and the farmers would still have gone bust.</p>
<p>For whatever reason, the government has taken a step in the direction you advocate- unilateral free trade- and, as a result, American agriculture has suffered. So far as Washington state asparagus growers are concerned, the drug war is irrelevant. All they know is that produce from Columbia and Peru is so cheap that they cannot compete&#8230; so they don&#8217;t. Instead they either find crops that Columbia and Peru don&#8217;t grow, or- more frequently, according to your quotations- they just quit business.</p>
<p>Failure of uncompetitive business is a natural consequence of free trade. If you don&#8217;t like the idea of American farmers going out of business, maybe you should rethink your unilateral trade policy&#8230; but you most certainly shouldn&#8217;t blame it on drug policy.</p>
<p>And if you stick to your guns on unilateral free trade, then quit whining about how it puts Americans out of work.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hampton</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/10/war-on-drugs-targets-asparagus/#comment-13017</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hampton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 07:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The presence or absence of a tariff on asparagus itself isn&#039;t the issue. The issue is that the government is abusing its power to levy tariffs to implement drug war policy &lt;strong&gt;in other countries&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The presence or absence of a tariff on asparagus itself isn&#8217;t the issue. The issue is that the government is abusing its power to levy tariffs to implement drug war policy <strong>in other countries</strong>.</p>
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		<title>By: Brock</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/10/war-on-drugs-targets-asparagus/#comment-13016</link>
		<dc:creator>Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 05:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kris, your capitals notwithstanding, there is no evidence of unprotected crops, any advantage or disadvantage for farmers or canneries abroad, land out of production, or any overall or specific advantage for crops grown in Columbia.  There is, however, incontrovertible evidence of government meddling (no doubt spurred by agriculture and manufacturing influence) in a market that is wholly capable of determining production on its own.  Finding unintended consequences in such a situation is not just unremarkable, but expected.

Having purchased the bulk of the hay necessary to feed my horses from the black market of &quot;fallow&quot; ground supposedly leased to the Dept. of Agriculture to prevent its overproduction, I can confidently say that neither you nor anyone else other than the landowner has the first damn clue as to the production of the land.  Furthermore, while I admit that Mike&#039;s article could have been more clear, neither you nor anyone else can determine from this bit of prose that Mike is advocating for an enaction of protectionist tariff rather than repeal of all tariffs.  Given his past writing, however, the latter is the more plausible reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kris, your capitals notwithstanding, there is no evidence of unprotected crops, any advantage or disadvantage for farmers or canneries abroad, land out of production, or any overall or specific advantage for crops grown in Columbia.  There is, however, incontrovertible evidence of government meddling (no doubt spurred by agriculture and manufacturing influence) in a market that is wholly capable of determining production on its own.  Finding unintended consequences in such a situation is not just unremarkable, but expected.</p>
<p>Having purchased the bulk of the hay necessary to feed my horses from the black market of &#8220;fallow&#8221; ground supposedly leased to the Dept. of Agriculture to prevent its overproduction, I can confidently say that neither you nor anyone else other than the landowner has the first damn clue as to the production of the land.  Furthermore, while I admit that Mike&#8217;s article could have been more clear, neither you nor anyone else can determine from this bit of prose that Mike is advocating for an enaction of protectionist tariff rather than repeal of all tariffs.  Given his past writing, however, the latter is the more plausible reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris Overstreet</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/10/war-on-drugs-targets-asparagus/#comment-13015</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris Overstreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brock, -no- crops are protected from Columbia- that&#039;s more or less the point.

The canning plants Michael mentions don&#039;t ONLY can asparagus- they can ALL vegetables.

That land IS out of production entirely, because it&#039;s less UNprofitable to leave it fallow than to try to grow ANY crop in competition with Columbian goods.

My point is, Michael&#039;s acting the hypocrite for complaining about this when this is a natural consequence of unilateral free trade- a viewpoint he advocates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brock, -no- crops are protected from Columbia- that&#8217;s more or less the point.</p>
<p>The canning plants Michael mentions don&#8217;t ONLY can asparagus- they can ALL vegetables.</p>
<p>That land IS out of production entirely, because it&#8217;s less UNprofitable to leave it fallow than to try to grow ANY crop in competition with Columbian goods.</p>
<p>My point is, Michael&#8217;s acting the hypocrite for complaining about this when this is a natural consequence of unilateral free trade- a viewpoint he advocates.</p>
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