Comments on: Terminator aims to destroy California health care http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/15/terminator-aims-to-destroy-california-health-care/ Protect yourself from government gaffes, bureaucratic blunders and incumbent incompetence Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:25:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Joe http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/15/terminator-aims-to-destroy-california-health-care/#comment-13093 Joe Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:02:33 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/15/terminator-aims-to-destroy-california-health-care/#comment-13093 Someone states above that people will start dying, if California reforms health care. I have news for you, they already are dying. None of the proposals put the patient a head of the insurance companies and Wall Street, except the single payer plan, until that happens people are going to continue to die, of course they don't care, they being Insurance companies and Wall Street brokers. Money is always more important in this Country, you know this compassionate, caring, humanitarian concerned country. Someone states above that people will start dying, if California reforms health care. I have news for you, they already are dying. None of the proposals put the patient a head of the insurance companies and Wall Street, except the single payer plan, until that happens people are going to continue to die, of course they don’t care, they being Insurance companies and Wall Street brokers. Money is always more important in this Country, you know this compassionate, caring, humanitarian concerned country.

]]> By: The Gentle Cricket http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/15/terminator-aims-to-destroy-california-health-care/#comment-13092 The Gentle Cricket Mon, 12 Feb 2007 01:43:42 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/15/terminator-aims-to-destroy-california-health-care/#comment-13092 His plan is nearly as bad as the single-payer SB840 of last year. It is expensive, insolvent, and will do nothing to diminish the rising cost of care. A free-market solution would be more effective. For example, promoting HSA's, or introducing legislation to make them more appealing to consumers would be a start. HSA's in the hands of a few hundred-thousand or a few million Californian's would likely start to decrease the cost of health care, making it more affordable to those who can't afford it. His plan is nearly as bad as the single-payer SB840 of last year. It is expensive, insolvent, and will do nothing to diminish the rising cost of care. A free-market solution would be more effective. For example, promoting HSA’s, or introducing legislation to make them more appealing to consumers would be a start. HSA’s in the hands of a few hundred-thousand or a few million Californian’s would likely start to decrease the cost of health care, making it more affordable to those who can’t afford it.

]]> By: Kevin Fields http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/15/terminator-aims-to-destroy-california-health-care/#comment-13091 Kevin Fields Mon, 29 Jan 2007 22:45:36 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/15/terminator-aims-to-destroy-california-health-care/#comment-13091 The sad thing is that President Bush pretty much confirmed he would try to back the California plan by promising that any state who offers to insure everybody in their state will get matching funds from the federal government. California will finance the plan by using matching funds and then over-taxing healthcare providers to get their money back, leaving everybody BUT California citizens on-the-hook for it. The federal government is going to finance their end by levying a tax on individuals who can afford higher-end health care insurance, increasing their taxes by nearly 20%. What is worse -- those who need the insurance the most will STILL not be able to buy it. While the government will offer a $7500 tax relief to every person, that's only good if the person can actually afford to pay for the insurance up-front. Most low-income and lower-middle class individuals who forego insurance because they don't have the resources to pay for it are not going to benefit. And if other states follow California's plan over upping their taxes on healtchare providers to reclaim the money they initially put into the new system, then the healthcare providers are only going to react by raising the prices of their services and putting everybody - insured and uninsured alike - on the hook for them. The sad thing is that President Bush pretty much confirmed he would try to back the California plan by promising that any state who offers to insure everybody in their state will get matching funds from the federal government.

California will finance the plan by using matching funds and then over-taxing healthcare providers to get their money back, leaving everybody BUT California citizens on-the-hook for it. The federal government is going to finance their end by levying a tax on individuals who can afford higher-end health care insurance, increasing their taxes by nearly 20%.

What is worse — those who need the insurance the most will STILL not be able to buy it. While the government will offer a $7500 tax relief to every person, that’s only good if the person can actually afford to pay for the insurance up-front. Most low-income and lower-middle class individuals who forego insurance because they don’t have the resources to pay for it are not going to benefit.

And if other states follow California’s plan over upping their taxes on healtchare providers to reclaim the money they initially put into the new system, then the healthcare providers are only going to react by raising the prices of their services and putting everybody – insured and uninsured alike – on the hook for them.

]]> By: niroshbv http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/15/terminator-aims-to-destroy-california-health-care/#comment-13090 niroshbv Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:06:26 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/15/terminator-aims-to-destroy-california-health-care/#comment-13090 Arnold if you somehow run into this : no.1 you are not American you are Austrian no.2 kurt waldheim is not your uncle.you and kurt are both confirmed nazis my friend and the sooner californians realize this the better for us all.now,between you and me ,i hope you die soon you prick. Arnold if you somehow run into this : no.1 you are not American you are Austrian no.2 kurt waldheim is not your uncle.you and kurt are both confirmed nazis my friend and the sooner californians realize this the better for us all.now,between you and me ,i hope you die soon you prick.

]]> By: paulie cannoli http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/15/terminator-aims-to-destroy-california-health-care/#comment-13089 paulie cannoli Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:39:08 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/15/terminator-aims-to-destroy-california-health-care/#comment-13089 Some ideas on better solutions to health care: http://lastfreevoice.wordpress.com/2007/01/15/health-care-alternatives-to-socialism-and-fascism/ Some ideas on better solutions to health care:

http://lastfreevoice.wordpress.com/2007/01/15/health-care-alternatives-to-socialism-and-fascism/

]]> By: Potential Threat http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/15/terminator-aims-to-destroy-california-health-care/#comment-13088 Potential Threat Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:36:46 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/15/terminator-aims-to-destroy-california-health-care/#comment-13088 <i>For instance, it imposes price controls on insurance providers...</i> So we've learned one thing: California learned absolutely nothing from the price controls it put on energy. Makes me glad I live on the east coast. --Mark For instance, it imposes price controls on insurance providers…

So we’ve learned one thing: California learned absolutely nothing from the price controls it put on energy. Makes me glad I live on the east coast.

–Mark

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