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		<title>By: Anonymus</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/19/irs-cant-even-collect-taxes-from-government-employees/#comment-21530</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 17:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon:
 
You said: 
``There are other far more effective methods of voicing your political views, the most important of which is exercising your citizenship and VOTING.&#039;&#039;

That only works in places like Canada and Switzerland where there&#039;s 
1) more than a duopoly - and 
2) in places where duopolies exist in the political system - where the duopolies do NOT have 
A) not only their hands in each other&#039;s pockets or 
B) otherwise colluding with one another for the sole purpose of keeping the duopoly the way it is.

When all you have is a duopoly, and all the different sides of the duopoly is different versions of the same thing, it&#039;s like they make fun of in V: The Final Battle: two lizards come to power in each of the two sides of the - by then - world duopoly and the parting comment they have to the masses on Earth is: 
``You have to vote for one of us - or waste your vote on a third party in which case you might as well stay home and not vote.&#039;&#039;

You said:
&#039;&#039;By simply not paying taxes, you are not influencing decisions one bit, but instead are causing taxes to be raised for everyone else to pay for the budget anyway.&#039;&#039;

However, if more and more and more people did the same, then the Government wouldn&#039;t have a CHOICE but to only spend money they have instead of continuing to borrow-borrow-borrow. Eventually the Chinese are going to say `Enough is enough&#039;&#039; and start treating America and the rest of the world like spoiled children or delinquent-debtors living off their increasing amounts of credit.

Except unlike when a person declares bankruptcy - the community at large around them - where both Government as well as business and residential - is by and large unaffected - when a COUNTRY declares bankruptcy - all the other countries with which they have integrated financial ties - takes a very BIG hit.

Look at Germany when Greece defaulted. The strongest economy in the world behind China and they started having problems once Greece went into free-fall. Same scenario in America: 
1. we take Canada and Mexico down with us cuz of NAFTA
2. That delivers the death blow to Europe in a 1-2 punch after Greece and Turkey
3. That causes the financial system in China to collapse
4. That takes Japan and the rest of Southeast Asia along with it
5. And we are all back in the jungle scrounging for food and shelter like cavemen.

You said
``Not to mention the fact that in addition to not funding “jet fighters and bombs” you are also not funding education, college loans and grants...&#039;&#039;

I didn&#039;t have kids, don&#039;t want kids and should not have to pay for idiot teachers to teach equally idiot kids in retail how to tell me to Google it or call customer service for assistance whenever I ask a question - with the even MORE idiotic customer service agents who ALSO know nothing except how to Google the Web
 - which I can do from here.

So, if that&#039;s what ``school&#039;&#039; and ``college&#039;&#039; is teaching, then i agree with all the big corporations: Eliminate school, entirely, and start kids working at offices, trades, farms or factories by the time they are 8 or 9 and only teach them what they need to know for their jobs, just like it was in America up til the 1930&#039;s.

You said:

``welfare programs...&#039;&#039; 

To pay perfectly capable people to sit at home watching cable TV they get free from the Government and either contribute to having or have the babies themselves, raising yet another generation of even worse idiots to perpetuate the system.

You said:
``reconstruction programs...&#039;&#039;

Like the newly constructed I-35 bridge that collapsed killing hundreds of people.

You said:
``and a slew of other things that both you and our society rely on. And despite any argument of the inefficiencies of those programs, no one can make a valid argument that we would simply be better off without any of them.&#039;&#039;

Yes we could. In Southern Europe none of these programs exist in the first place and they get along just fine. The equivalent of a 5th grade education is considered sufficient for executing daily life, corporations take in children as young as 8 or 9 to teach them on-the-job training, they work there for 30 or 40 years, the elderly and infirm are taken care of by their own families, women stay home in the kitchen where they belong and men work the farms, forests and factories like men have been doing for hundreds if not thousands of years.

You upset the balance of nature - you pay the price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon:</p>
<p>You said:<br />
&#8220;There are other far more effective methods of voicing your political views, the most important of which is exercising your citizenship and VOTING.&#8221;</p>
<p>That only works in places like Canada and Switzerland where there&#8217;s<br />
1) more than a duopoly &#8211; and<br />
2) in places where duopolies exist in the political system &#8211; where the duopolies do NOT have<br />
A) not only their hands in each other&#8217;s pockets or<br />
B) otherwise colluding with one another for the sole purpose of keeping the duopoly the way it is.</p>
<p>When all you have is a duopoly, and all the different sides of the duopoly is different versions of the same thing, it&#8217;s like they make fun of in V: The Final Battle: two lizards come to power in each of the two sides of the &#8211; by then &#8211; world duopoly and the parting comment they have to the masses on Earth is:<br />
&#8220;You have to vote for one of us &#8211; or waste your vote on a third party in which case you might as well stay home and not vote.&#8221;</p>
<p>You said:<br />
&#8221;By simply not paying taxes, you are not influencing decisions one bit, but instead are causing taxes to be raised for everyone else to pay for the budget anyway.&#8221;</p>
<p>However, if more and more and more people did the same, then the Government wouldn&#8217;t have a CHOICE but to only spend money they have instead of continuing to borrow-borrow-borrow. Eventually the Chinese are going to say `Enough is enough&#8221; and start treating America and the rest of the world like spoiled children or delinquent-debtors living off their increasing amounts of credit.</p>
<p>Except unlike when a person declares bankruptcy &#8211; the community at large around them &#8211; where both Government as well as business and residential &#8211; is by and large unaffected &#8211; when a COUNTRY declares bankruptcy &#8211; all the other countries with which they have integrated financial ties &#8211; takes a very BIG hit.</p>
<p>Look at Germany when Greece defaulted. The strongest economy in the world behind China and they started having problems once Greece went into free-fall. Same scenario in America:<br />
1. we take Canada and Mexico down with us cuz of NAFTA<br />
2. That delivers the death blow to Europe in a 1-2 punch after Greece and Turkey<br />
3. That causes the financial system in China to collapse<br />
4. That takes Japan and the rest of Southeast Asia along with it<br />
5. And we are all back in the jungle scrounging for food and shelter like cavemen.</p>
<p>You said<br />
&#8220;Not to mention the fact that in addition to not funding “jet fighters and bombs” you are also not funding education, college loans and grants&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t have kids, don&#8217;t want kids and should not have to pay for idiot teachers to teach equally idiot kids in retail how to tell me to Google it or call customer service for assistance whenever I ask a question &#8211; with the even MORE idiotic customer service agents who ALSO know nothing except how to Google the Web<br />
 &#8211; which I can do from here.</p>
<p>So, if that&#8217;s what &#8220;school&#8221; and &#8220;college&#8221; is teaching, then i agree with all the big corporations: Eliminate school, entirely, and start kids working at offices, trades, farms or factories by the time they are 8 or 9 and only teach them what they need to know for their jobs, just like it was in America up til the 1930&#8242;s.</p>
<p>You said:</p>
<p>&#8220;welfare programs&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>To pay perfectly capable people to sit at home watching cable TV they get free from the Government and either contribute to having or have the babies themselves, raising yet another generation of even worse idiots to perpetuate the system.</p>
<p>You said:<br />
&#8220;reconstruction programs&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Like the newly constructed I-35 bridge that collapsed killing hundreds of people.</p>
<p>You said:<br />
&#8220;and a slew of other things that both you and our society rely on. And despite any argument of the inefficiencies of those programs, no one can make a valid argument that we would simply be better off without any of them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes we could. In Southern Europe none of these programs exist in the first place and they get along just fine. The equivalent of a 5th grade education is considered sufficient for executing daily life, corporations take in children as young as 8 or 9 to teach them on-the-job training, they work there for 30 or 40 years, the elderly and infirm are taken care of by their own families, women stay home in the kitchen where they belong and men work the farms, forests and factories like men have been doing for hundreds if not thousands of years.</p>
<p>You upset the balance of nature &#8211; you pay the price.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/19/irs-cant-even-collect-taxes-from-government-employees/#comment-20668</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 02:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is sad that so many people in out Country do not understand what freedom is, and believe that they should work so hard to make the dreams of others come true.  We have Rights!

For those of you who believe that not paying taxes is the same as treason you should read the Supreme Court Rulings wherein they state that there is no relationship between the amount of tax paid and patriotism.  In fact they very people that own the corporations that take your hard earned money pay little or no personal income tax.  Why should they, they have a nation full of dummies to pay all the bills for them.  You people need to study the Constitution.

I have copies of the votes from each of the States that voted on the 16th Amendment and IT WAS NOT RATIFIED, I have proof. The 16th Amendment was a scam created by John Rockefellers son-in-law.  It is not law.

Even if it were, the Supreme Court has ruled that it only applies to corporate profits.  Supreme Court Rulings are the law.  Case law means nothing, everyone is required to obey the Supreme Court rulings.

There is no law requiring anyone to file a Form 1040, Supreme Court Justice William Renquist learned that before he died.

If people tell you that you are required to pay taxes ask them for a copy of the law requiring you to file a F1040.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is sad that so many people in out Country do not understand what freedom is, and believe that they should work so hard to make the dreams of others come true.  We have Rights!</p>
<p>For those of you who believe that not paying taxes is the same as treason you should read the Supreme Court Rulings wherein they state that there is no relationship between the amount of tax paid and patriotism.  In fact they very people that own the corporations that take your hard earned money pay little or no personal income tax.  Why should they, they have a nation full of dummies to pay all the bills for them.  You people need to study the Constitution.</p>
<p>I have copies of the votes from each of the States that voted on the 16th Amendment and IT WAS NOT RATIFIED, I have proof. The 16th Amendment was a scam created by John Rockefellers son-in-law.  It is not law.</p>
<p>Even if it were, the Supreme Court has ruled that it only applies to corporate profits.  Supreme Court Rulings are the law.  Case law means nothing, everyone is required to obey the Supreme Court rulings.</p>
<p>There is no law requiring anyone to file a Form 1040, Supreme Court Justice William Renquist learned that before he died.</p>
<p>If people tell you that you are required to pay taxes ask them for a copy of the law requiring you to file a F1040.</p>
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		<title>By: Contacting Our Overlords &#171; Awelteredmind&#039;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/19/irs-cant-even-collect-taxes-from-government-employees/#comment-13241</link>
		<dc:creator>Contacting Our Overlords &#171; Awelteredmind&#039;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] upon which it depends (IRS Can&#8217;t Collect Billions in Unpaid Taxes &#8211; ABC News), or (IRS can&#8217;t even collect taxes from government employees &#124; Homeland &#8230;). Or, consider the TSA. They are charged with keeping bombs and weapons off airplanes, which [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] upon which it depends (IRS Can&#8217;t Collect Billions in Unpaid Taxes &#8211; ABC News), or (IRS can&#8217;t even collect taxes from government employees | Homeland &#8230;). Or, consider the TSA. They are charged with keeping bombs and weapons off airplanes, which [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 12:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sandy,
  I would tell you to check the apprased value of you property.You can get a certificate of Discharge from the Federal Government Tax Lein.It is on the Internal Revenues Service website.You will want Form 14135.You may Quallify for a discarge.Read over the instructions on how to apply for the discharge.
                                             Good Luck,
                                                Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sandy,<br />
  I would tell you to check the apprased value of you property.You can get a certificate of Discharge from the Federal Government Tax Lein.It is on the Internal Revenues Service website.You will want Form 14135.You may Quallify for a discarge.Read over the instructions on how to apply for the discharge.<br />
                                             Good Luck,<br />
                                                Jim</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/19/irs-cant-even-collect-taxes-from-government-employees/#comment-13239</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 12:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, they are threatening me with taking my land and home (mobile at that).
I couldn&#039;t pay my taxes because I became disabled and my disability co did not take taxes out. I thought it was exempt, now I have a bill I can&#039;t possibly pay. Work is scarce and disability payments ended. I think I will ask members of congress with unpaid taxes for a loan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, they are threatening me with taking my land and home (mobile at that).<br />
I couldn&#8217;t pay my taxes because I became disabled and my disability co did not take taxes out. I thought it was exempt, now I have a bill I can&#8217;t possibly pay. Work is scarce and disability payments ended. I think I will ask members of congress with unpaid taxes for a loan.</p>
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		<title>By: Hombre Colorado</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/01/19/irs-cant-even-collect-taxes-from-government-employees/#comment-13238</link>
		<dc:creator>Hombre Colorado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 00:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RC thanks for getting back on the subject because I have been heavily involved in UCC, A4V and IRS exemption, but I have been told that because I am a government employee, I am not exempt and that the law particularly describes that government employees must pay taxes. Is there any other avenue for me? I have 4.5 years left and I will leave if that is what it takes. Please advise...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RC thanks for getting back on the subject because I have been heavily involved in UCC, A4V and IRS exemption, but I have been told that because I am a government employee, I am not exempt and that the law particularly describes that government employees must pay taxes. Is there any other avenue for me? I have 4.5 years left and I will leave if that is what it takes. Please advise&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 07:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey MD,

Have you even read the INTERNAL Revenue Code???? IT only applies to GOVERNMENT WORKERS, PERIOD. Read the definitions in the code!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey MD,</p>
<p>Have you even read the INTERNAL Revenue Code???? IT only applies to GOVERNMENT WORKERS, PERIOD. Read the definitions in the code!</p>
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		<title>By: MC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 06:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been in the military for over 20 years with 4 years to go before I finally retire and I for one will be one happy camper when that day comes. I and the majority of our enlisted soldiers I have talked are disgusted, and have lost faith in todays military leaders due to political interests, our government officials to include Congress in the name of National Security and our President. We have no constitutional rights while we are in the military, and we have to watch what we say or do while in the military or around the general public.

Yes, we are citizens too and we have the right to vote and pay taxes like everyone else. I for one do not like to pay taxes to a corrupt and mismanaged government but, I do. My family and I live paycheck to paycheck in trying to get out of a hole, it is very exhausting and stressful to say the least. I&#039;m not even sure what I want to do after I retire?

As for voting goes, I have lost faith in that as well. I have voted for years against certain initatives, presidential candidates, ect. to have them approved or elected to office. If you ALL honestly think that your vote seriously counts in America you are sadly mistaken by your misguided hopes and dreams. Reality Check People! No matter what your race is or ethinic background are, we are all slaves to our government, business corporations, employers because of capitalism for we are a greedy and corrupt society who argue with each other and have differences of opinions on the way things should be in America.

Bottom line is we are NOT a United Country! It is sad and very unfortunate to say that when 9/11 happened it opened our eyes but, we are still a country that is torn apart with our petty differences over taxes, welfare, presidents, homeless people and so on. The saga continues on through my lifetime, my childrens, and their childrens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been in the military for over 20 years with 4 years to go before I finally retire and I for one will be one happy camper when that day comes. I and the majority of our enlisted soldiers I have talked are disgusted, and have lost faith in todays military leaders due to political interests, our government officials to include Congress in the name of National Security and our President. We have no constitutional rights while we are in the military, and we have to watch what we say or do while in the military or around the general public.</p>
<p>Yes, we are citizens too and we have the right to vote and pay taxes like everyone else. I for one do not like to pay taxes to a corrupt and mismanaged government but, I do. My family and I live paycheck to paycheck in trying to get out of a hole, it is very exhausting and stressful to say the least. I&#8217;m not even sure what I want to do after I retire?</p>
<p>As for voting goes, I have lost faith in that as well. I have voted for years against certain initatives, presidential candidates, ect. to have them approved or elected to office. If you ALL honestly think that your vote seriously counts in America you are sadly mistaken by your misguided hopes and dreams. Reality Check People! No matter what your race is or ethinic background are, we are all slaves to our government, business corporations, employers because of capitalism for we are a greedy and corrupt society who argue with each other and have differences of opinions on the way things should be in America.</p>
<p>Bottom line is we are NOT a United Country! It is sad and very unfortunate to say that when 9/11 happened it opened our eyes but, we are still a country that is torn apart with our petty differences over taxes, welfare, presidents, homeless people and so on. The saga continues on through my lifetime, my childrens, and their childrens.</p>
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		<title>By: MD</title>
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		<dc:creator>MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those not paying taxes for all of your lame vague reasons - you&#039;ll all be caught eventually - and will not only owe your back taxes - but interest as well as you should be.  All your crackpot theories consistently demonstrate your incredibly uneducated backgrounds and total lack of understanding of how government works, and the services it provides that touches each of our lives in many extraordinarily positive ways - from your receiving your mail, to military safety - border security to safe food supplies and protection of domestic industries such as farming and many many others that provide jobs and economic security.  Your small minds that actually believe you don&#039;t need or use those services demonstrates your all morons and freeloaders!  Could these government functions be improved - of course - that&#039;s all of our responsibilities as responsible citizens - to participate through voting and participating in the process.  For those not paying taxes intentionally - your below an illegal alien status in this country in my book!  Lack of education in this country leads to morons not paying their taxes and a large supply of ditch diggers, short order cooks and janitors - in other parts of the world, that same issue - lack of education (and lack of economic advantage) has created terrorists - who said stupidity wasn&#039;t dangerous?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those not paying taxes for all of your lame vague reasons &#8211; you&#8217;ll all be caught eventually &#8211; and will not only owe your back taxes &#8211; but interest as well as you should be.  All your crackpot theories consistently demonstrate your incredibly uneducated backgrounds and total lack of understanding of how government works, and the services it provides that touches each of our lives in many extraordinarily positive ways &#8211; from your receiving your mail, to military safety &#8211; border security to safe food supplies and protection of domestic industries such as farming and many many others that provide jobs and economic security.  Your small minds that actually believe you don&#8217;t need or use those services demonstrates your all morons and freeloaders!  Could these government functions be improved &#8211; of course &#8211; that&#8217;s all of our responsibilities as responsible citizens &#8211; to participate through voting and participating in the process.  For those not paying taxes intentionally &#8211; your below an illegal alien status in this country in my book!  Lack of education in this country leads to morons not paying their taxes and a large supply of ditch diggers, short order cooks and janitors &#8211; in other parts of the world, that same issue &#8211; lack of education (and lack of economic advantage) has created terrorists &#8211; who said stupidity wasn&#8217;t dangerous?</p>
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		<title>By: CoyOrca</title>
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		<dc:creator>CoyOrca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 03:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please tell me more about the coding process.  Very intrigued and wishing to investigate and participate in the process.  Thank you...and also, the Office of Management and Budget Control Number...please expand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please tell me more about the coding process.  Very intrigued and wishing to investigate and participate in the process.  Thank you&#8230;and also, the Office of Management and Budget Control Number&#8230;please expand.</p>
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