Comments on: Feds to take DNA from everyone at arrest http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/feds-to-take-dna-from-everyone-at-arrest/ Protect yourself from government gaffes, bureaucratic blunders and incumbent incompetence Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:25:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Gölök http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/feds-to-take-dna-from-everyone-at-arrest/#comment-13559 Gölök Tue, 06 Feb 2007 07:22:44 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/feds-to-take-dna-from-everyone-at-arrest/#comment-13559 So will they take it from the constitution violating politicians and the illegal Feds or <a HREF="http://www.911.pornstitution.com/NAG/" rel="nofollow">Nats</a> like the FBI, ATF, <a HREF="http://www.911.pornstitution.com/mirrors/jim_akwei.vs.nsa.shtml" rel="nofollow">NSA</a>, CIA, DEA, and all but border guards, Marshal liason and customs/treasury have to give up their blood and DNA? What happens when your time is up? Do they drop it, keep it, or give it to the Raelian master race programs? Where does it end. Does this fall in the line of self incrimination? A search and seisure? So will they take it from the constitution violating politicians
and the illegal Feds or Nats like the FBI, ATF, NSA, CIA, DEA, and all but border guards, Marshal liason and customs/treasury have to give up their blood and DNA?
What happens when your time is up? Do they drop it, keep it, or give it to the Raelian master race programs?

Where does it end. Does this fall in the line of self incrimination? A search and seisure?

]]> By: Brock http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/feds-to-take-dna-from-everyone-at-arrest/#comment-13558 Brock Mon, 05 Feb 2007 22:11:47 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/feds-to-take-dna-from-everyone-at-arrest/#comment-13558 I'm going to regret asking this. How, exactly, do they propose taking DNA from someone who does not want to give? Wouldn't it be similar to fingerprinting, where failure to submit is a crime, but forcing you to submit would be assault? I’m going to regret asking this. How, exactly, do they propose taking DNA from someone who does not want to give? Wouldn’t it be similar to fingerprinting, where failure to submit is a crime, but forcing you to submit would be assault?

]]> By: Q http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/feds-to-take-dna-from-everyone-at-arrest/#comment-13557 Q Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:45:34 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/feds-to-take-dna-from-everyone-at-arrest/#comment-13557 true it's not necessarily these intrusive laws, but how people abuse them, laws are a lot like drugs in that respect, most recreational drugs in and of themselves; are not harmful, until they are abused. that can be by the way they are taken, or by process of manufacture, like when liquor was illegal, there were a lot of pirate distilleries that didn't have the safety protocols in place to ensure the quality of the product. the laws wouldn't be so bad, if the true intention wasn't to give more room for secret abuse of the law, such as the abuse we've been seeing of the patriot act, claiming a suspect may be a terrorist just so they can have justification for arrest and violation of privacy, as long as we do nothing this will only get worse until either a bloody painful revolution takes place, or the economy implodes, and our government just collapses under the weight of it's own stupidity and greed. true it’s not necessarily these intrusive laws, but how people abuse them, laws are a lot like drugs in that respect, most recreational drugs in and of themselves; are not harmful, until they are abused. that can be by the way they are taken, or by process of manufacture, like when liquor was illegal, there were a lot of pirate distilleries that didn’t have the safety protocols in place to ensure the quality of the product.

the laws wouldn’t be so bad, if the true intention wasn’t to give more room for secret abuse of the law, such as the abuse we’ve been seeing of the patriot act, claiming a suspect may be a terrorist just so they can have justification for arrest and violation of privacy, as long as we do nothing this will only get worse until either a bloody painful revolution takes place, or the economy implodes, and our government just collapses under the weight of it’s own stupidity and greed.

]]> By: Michael Hampton http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/feds-to-take-dna-from-everyone-at-arrest/#comment-13556 Michael Hampton Mon, 05 Feb 2007 16:39:27 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/feds-to-take-dna-from-everyone-at-arrest/#comment-13556 There are two problems with such a law: First, the government ignores laws whenever it thinks it can get away with it; and second, laws can always be changed, in this case to remove the protection later, once everyone is in the database. After all, they're just words on a piece of paper. They are not chains which bind the government. Indeed, <em>asking</em> for the government to restrain itself is absurd. There are two problems with such a law: First, the government ignores laws whenever it thinks it can get away with it; and second, laws can always be changed, in this case to remove the protection later, once everyone is in the database.

After all, they’re just words on a piece of paper. They are not chains which bind the government. Indeed, asking for the government to restrain itself is absurd.

]]> By: V http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/feds-to-take-dna-from-everyone-at-arrest/#comment-13555 V Mon, 05 Feb 2007 16:18:31 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/feds-to-take-dna-from-everyone-at-arrest/#comment-13555 This isn't necessarily a bad thing. I had a friend whose car was broken into, but the guy cut himself breaking the window. If the blood could be matched up with an identity, we could potentially catch a lot of criminals this way. What we really need is a strong-worded law that prevents DNA taken this way from being use for ANYTHING other than criminal investigation, and can not be given to a 3rd party. The penalty being a giant lawsuit by everyone in the database. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing. I had a friend whose car was broken into, but the guy cut himself breaking the window. If the blood could be matched up with an identity, we could potentially catch a lot of criminals this way.

What we really need is a strong-worded law that prevents DNA taken this way from being use for ANYTHING other than criminal investigation, and can not be given to a 3rd party. The penalty being a giant lawsuit by everyone in the database.

]]> By: Michael http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/feds-to-take-dna-from-everyone-at-arrest/#comment-13554 Michael Mon, 05 Feb 2007 15:42:19 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/feds-to-take-dna-from-everyone-at-arrest/#comment-13554 Not to mention that the Feds have been taking DNA samples from everyone who joins the millitary. I know they were doing this in 1995 when I joined. Not to mention that the Feds have been taking DNA samples from everyone who joins the millitary. I know they were doing this in 1995 when I joined.

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