Comments on: Global warming, where are you? http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/ Protect yourself from government gaffes, bureaucratic blunders and incumbent incompetence Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:19:36 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: socialfleahttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-38322 socialflea Wed, 28 Mar 2007 03:54:01 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-38322 Most people tend to look at one area, the area they live in and say "I'm cold what they're saying about climate change must not be true." When you look globally this winter has been very warm. In Allentown Pennsylvania where I live February was the fifth coldest on record, but December was the warmest on record. As cold as it has been since the middle of January it doesn't out way the warmth we've seen, and the winter as a whole was slightly above average. My little tidbit doesn't prove global warming, but if you look globally it tells a different story. Most people tend to look at one area, the area they live in and say “I’m cold what they’re saying about climate change must not be true.” When you look globally this winter has been very warm. In Allentown Pennsylvania where I live February was the fifth coldest on record, but December was the warmest on record. As cold as it has been since the middle of January it doesn’t out way the warmth we’ve seen, and the winter as a whole was slightly above average. My little tidbit doesn’t prove global warming, but if you look globally it tells a different story.

]]> By: Curtishttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-38310 Curtis Wed, 28 Mar 2007 01:14:37 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-38310 You have no clue how science works do you? Climate is a long term trend. Weather is short term. The trend is that it is getting warmer, many of the warmest years to date have been recently. You also seem to have forgotton last Oct-Dec. Nice WEATHER then. The fact is that cardon dioxide traps heat (or we would be frozen icecubes). Common sense says more carbon dioxide would trap more heat. Science confirms that the AVERAGE temperature has gone up. Anyone with any math knowledge knows that an average can include high (and low) number. The average of 5, 5,5 is 5. The average of 0,5, 10 is still 5. But they are very different data sets. The cost of action is $$ (kind of), better efficiency (get some of your money back), less environmental destruction, and less dependence on overseas oil. The cost of inaction could be none...or very costly in 30 years. All I can say is that the people who say global warming is BS, and we need to do nothing are right, because if they are not we are in for big trouble. You have no clue how science works do you? Climate is a long term trend. Weather is short term. The trend is that it is getting warmer, many of the warmest years to date have been recently. You also seem to have forgotton last Oct-Dec. Nice WEATHER then. The fact is that cardon dioxide traps heat (or we would be frozen icecubes). Common sense says more carbon dioxide would trap more heat. Science confirms that the AVERAGE temperature has gone up. Anyone with any math knowledge knows that an average can include high (and low) number. The average of 5, 5,5 is 5. The average of 0,5, 10 is still 5. But they are very different data sets. The cost of action is $$ (kind of), better efficiency (get some of your money back), less environmental destruction, and less dependence on overseas oil. The cost of inaction could be none…or very costly in 30 years. All I can say is that the people who say global warming is BS, and we need to do nothing are right, because if they are not we are in for big trouble.

]]> By: Henry the Eighthhttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-32708 Henry the Eighth Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:37:58 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-32708 Man made global warming is complete and utter nonsense! Who ever heard of a scientific "consensus"? Did we build the space shuttle because of a "consensus" among aeronautical engineers that it would work? As opposed to cold hard facts about flight and space travel that had been tested and proved over the course of decades? Of course it was and is the latter! If the earth IS getting warmer, of which there is still much debate, it is due to the natural cycles of the planet and, as one poster mentioned, the Sun and its cycles. Man made global warming is complete and utter nonsense! Who ever heard of a scientific “consensus”? Did we build the space shuttle because of a “consensus” among aeronautical engineers that it would work? As opposed to cold hard facts about flight and space travel that had been tested and proved over the course of decades? Of course it was and is the latter! If the earth IS getting warmer, of which there is still much debate, it is due to the natural cycles of the planet and, as one poster mentioned, the Sun and its cycles.

]]> By: Bobhttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-32259 Bob Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:02:29 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-32259 Cold weather is also a symptom of Global Worming. Global Warming causes the atmosphere to heat up, melting the ice caps. This causes ocean temperatures to drop and lessen rain and humidity values. As a result the earth starts to plunge in to a micro Ice Age. So all this cold weather we're seeing could still be a result of Global Warming.Of course that's just my opinion, and I'm probably wrong. Cold weather is also a symptom of Global Worming. Global Warming causes the atmosphere to heat up, melting the ice caps. This causes ocean temperatures to drop and lessen rain and humidity values. As a result the earth starts to plunge in to a micro Ice Age. So all this cold weather we’re seeing could still be a result of Global Warming.

Of course that’s just my opinion, and I’m probably wrong.

]]> By: Right Wing Toledohttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-32155 Right Wing Toledo Mon, 12 Feb 2007 15:58:49 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-32155 Heaven forbid that anyone consider the "Sun" in their calculations. After all, that particular body of gas has been working overtime for the past 20 years or so, I'm sure that it has <b>nothing</b> to do with increased temperatures.Besides, Artic ice sheets are diminishing (psst... Antartic sheets are incresing). And we know that Global Warming exists, the Earth is Flat, the Atom is indestructible, and there are only 4 elements: Air, Earth, Fire, & Water (Love does not count you Bruce Willis movie fans.) Heaven forbid that anyone consider the “Sun” in their calculations. After all, that particular body of gas has been working overtime for the past 20 years or so, I’m sure that it has nothing to do with increased temperatures.

Besides, Artic ice sheets are diminishing (psst… Antartic sheets are incresing). And we know that Global Warming exists, the Earth is Flat, the Atom is indestructible, and there are only 4 elements: Air, Earth, Fire, & Water (Love does not count you Bruce Willis movie fans.)

]]> By: seefhttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-31369 seef Wed, 07 Feb 2007 04:31:47 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-31369 The Global Warming "issue" isn't a right- or left- wing thing. All I know is I've been following the Junk Science blog for years. Steven Milloy is considered a "wingnut" (tied to big oil and tobacco somehow). I'm anti-government, anti-war, anti-??? (I'm Libertarian-Atheist all the way. Bush, Rush don't believe this stuff either, but for my sake for different reasons..!!) This Junk Science site, in my opinion, is NOT biased one way or the other (sure, his snide comments are biased, but 99% of the time I agree). Fine, Global Warming is happening, but not from excessive CO2!!! Look at the history, as noted by prior posts. My opinion? Climate Scientists aren't all that far removed from Meteorologists (weathermen with degrees?). PS- Articles containing the word "consensus" drives me crazy. There have been majority opinions, not a consensus!!! The Global Warming “issue” isn’t a right- or left- wing thing. All I know is I’ve been following the Junk Science blog for years. Steven Milloy is considered a “wingnut” (tied to big oil and tobacco somehow). I’m anti-government, anti-war, anti-??? (I’m Libertarian-Atheist all the way. Bush, Rush don’t believe this stuff either, but for my sake for different reasons..!!) This Junk Science site, in my opinion, is NOT biased one way or the other (sure, his snide comments are biased, but 99% of the time I agree). Fine, Global Warming is happening, but not from excessive CO2!!! Look at the history, as noted by prior posts.
My opinion? Climate Scientists aren’t all that far removed from Meteorologists (weathermen with degrees?).
PS- Articles containing the word “consensus” drives me crazy. There have been majority opinions, not a consensus!!!

]]> By: Rob Davidsonhttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-31315 Rob Davidson Tue, 06 Feb 2007 21:32:12 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-31315 While I tend to get infuriated at times with evangelistic "Man-Made Global Warming" fanatics, I do get a chuckle over their gullibility.Unfortunately, I am old enough to remember the exact same sort of nonsense that was being spewed forth back in the 70's - by the same kind of people - only then it was "Global Cooling" and the impending Ice Age that we were all going to facing by now.I also remember how all of these so-called experts were crying the blues over world population, and how the Earth couldn't <i>possibly</i> feed the billions of people. Everyone was going to be starving by the year 2000 - even those of us in the industrialized countries would be suffering. While I tend to get infuriated at times with evangelistic “Man-Made Global Warming” fanatics, I do get a chuckle over their gullibility.

Unfortunately, I am old enough to remember the exact same sort of nonsense that was being spewed forth back in the 70’s – by the same kind of people – only then it was “Global Cooling” and the impending Ice Age that we were all going to facing by now.

I also remember how all of these so-called experts were crying the blues over world population, and how the Earth couldn’t possibly feed the billions of people. Everyone was going to be starving by the year 2000 – even those of us in the industrialized countries would be suffering.

]]> By: Lenny Zimmermannhttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-31305 Lenny Zimmermann Tue, 06 Feb 2007 16:41:19 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-31305 Semms kind of a non-story to me. Whether or not not you believe in global warming (and I think it's pretty safe to say there is pretty good scientific evidence and consensus that we are seeing a general warming trend in global temperatures, the differences mostly revolving around how much) or that any of it is caused by human activity (the evidence is a LOT less clear on that point), the current cold points on the North American continent don't prove or disprove anything. Heck the last European ice age was mostly likely cause by a general warming trend (which caused a disruption of warmer ocean currents affecting the European continent.)In other words global warming can have, and historically has had, cooling, sometimes even extremely so, effects. Either way we're still talking about an event of geological proportions where local conditions in any given short time frame are pretty indicative of nothing. Indeed it is those same kinds of events that those opposed to the idea of a general global warming trend often disavow (such as hotter then usual summers in any given place not being indicative of a general warming trend.)In other words, just because it's cold outside now does not, in any way, provide proof or disproof of the total, overall climactic changes our planet may or may not be going through. Semms kind of a non-story to me. Whether or not not you believe in global warming (and I think it’s pretty safe to say there is pretty good scientific evidence and consensus that we are seeing a general warming trend in global temperatures, the differences mostly revolving around how much) or that any of it is caused by human activity (the evidence is a LOT less clear on that point), the current cold points on the North American continent don’t prove or disprove anything. Heck the last European ice age was mostly likely cause by a general warming trend (which caused a disruption of warmer ocean currents affecting the European continent.)

In other words global warming can have, and historically has had, cooling, sometimes even extremely so, effects. Either way we’re still talking about an event of geological proportions where local conditions in any given short time frame are pretty indicative of nothing. Indeed it is those same kinds of events that those opposed to the idea of a general global warming trend often disavow (such as hotter then usual summers in any given place not being indicative of a general warming trend.)

In other words, just because it’s cold outside now does not, in any way, provide proof or disproof of the total, overall climactic changes our planet may or may not be going through.

]]> By: J. Brunohttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-31302 J. Bruno Tue, 06 Feb 2007 15:35:47 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-31302 Many theories propose that the planet will actually cool at first due to tons of ice melting into the seas. I have not researched it. Many theories propose that the planet will actually cool at first due to tons of ice melting into the seas. I have not researched it.

]]> By: Fhttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-31297 F Tue, 06 Feb 2007 13:55:15 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-31297 The earth is a complex huge ecosystem, 'global' warming can cause temporary regional cooling. The planets carbon ratio is above 300ppm and climbing rapidly, at 1000ppm was the Cambrian extinction that wiped out over 60% of the planets species. With India and china growing, we are gonna be pumping huge amounts of carbon into the atmosphere. The planet is warming that's a fact. How much and what will be the effects and should we be doing something about it, are other issues.You forget that the rest of this winter and fall was extremely warm. The earth is a complex huge ecosystem, ‘global’ warming can cause temporary regional cooling. The planets carbon ratio is above 300ppm and climbing rapidly, at 1000ppm was the Cambrian extinction that wiped out over 60% of the planets species. With India and china growing, we are gonna be pumping huge amounts of carbon into the atmosphere. The planet is warming that’s a fact. How much and what will be the effects and should we be doing something about it, are other issues.

You forget that the rest of this winter and fall was extremely warm.

]]> By: michael lundyhttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-31265 michael lundy Tue, 06 Feb 2007 10:50:59 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-31265 I have completely flip flopped on this issue. I used to believe it but after becoming more INFORMED about it I think it's one great big U.N bullshit story. Now you really wanna be scared read 1984.again!! I have completely flip flopped on this issue. I used to believe it but after becoming more INFORMED about it I think it’s one great big U.N bullshit story. Now you really wanna be scared read 1984.again!!

]]> By: Gölökhttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-31228 Gölök Tue, 06 Feb 2007 08:00:05 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-31228 Hmmmm, what is said about the phrase "Climate Change" that creator of the barometer didn't know? Or did Al Gore invent that as well? The weather and Climate variables have changed back to how they were when I moved to Vancouver in the late 80s. After having it really well, it isn't Phoenix or Equador here, hasn't been. Oh that ice bridge to the North Melted a few centuries ago and some Penguins moved to South Africa. Must be getting cooler there. <a HREF="http://www.straight.com/article-67107/trust-us-were-the-media">Trust us, we're the media By Mitchell Anderson:</a> is a good one, very surprising. Given the Paper, the editor/publisher is usually into the nutty cult lip service and Authoritarianism. Did Dan McCleod see some light other than from Ra's Eye? Hmmmm, what is said about the phrase “Climate Change” that creator of the barometer didn’t know? Or did Al Gore invent that as well? The weather and Climate variables have changed back to how they were when I moved to Vancouver in the late 80s. After having it really well, it isn’t Phoenix or Equador here, hasn’t been. Oh that ice bridge to the North Melted a few centuries ago and some Penguins moved to South Africa.
Must be getting cooler there.
Trust us, we’re the media By Mitchell Anderson: is a good one, very surprising. Given the Paper, the editor/publisher is usually into the nutty cult lip service and Authoritarianism.
Did Dan McCleod see some light other than from Ra’s Eye?

]]> By: Gimme Castrohttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-31217 Gimme Castro Tue, 06 Feb 2007 03:38:25 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-31217 Just another excuse for central planners and socialist ideologues to implement "change" via force on the masses. Nothing works better than creating a menace bigger than the individual, whether real or imagined, in order to bring to pass the means for controlling that individual. All the while screaming "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few!" as they implement their Utopian "Star Trek" society. Only hindsight will stop this steamroller mob mentality.I'm really having trouble keeping up with all the things the experts say I should be afraid of... Just another excuse for central planners and socialist ideologues to implement “change” via force on the masses. Nothing works better than creating a menace bigger than the individual, whether real or imagined, in order to bring to pass the means for controlling that individual. All the while screaming “The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few!” as they implement their Utopian “Star Trek” society. Only hindsight will stop this steamroller mob mentality.

I’m really having trouble keeping up with all the things the experts say I should be afraid of…

]]> By: Old Timerhttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-31199 Old Timer Mon, 05 Feb 2007 20:52:49 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-31199 Global Warming = <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,249598,00.html">Junk Science</a>Beware these folks appearing at your local town meeting. It's just another excuse for land grabs by your government! Global Warming = Junk Science

Beware these folks appearing at your local town meeting. It’s just another excuse for land grabs by your government!

]]> By: Davidhttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-31197 David Mon, 05 Feb 2007 20:34:33 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/02/05/global-warming-where-are-you/#comment-31197 All I can suggest to believers in man made global warming science is to investigate the history of eugenics. There are many similarities between the two sciences. Personally, I can see a real clear and present danger with the global warming wackos out there. These global warming scientists regularly omit data that does not back thier view point. Makes sense that they would want the data to match there self interests as it is much much harder to get those juicy government grants for research if there is no catastrophic danger to mankind to point at.Really, isn't it rather egotistical to believe that man can affect the earth in such a dramatic way? All I can suggest to believers in man made global warming science is to investigate the history of eugenics. There are many similarities between the two sciences. Personally, I can see a real clear and present danger with the global warming wackos out there. These global warming scientists regularly omit data that does not back thier view point. Makes sense that they would want the data to match there self interests as it is much much harder to get those juicy government grants for research if there is no catastrophic danger to mankind to point at.

Really, isn’t it rather egotistical to believe that man can affect the earth in such a dramatic way?

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