Comments on: California Polytechnic State University, Pomona, to destroy books for Starbucks http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/03/08/california-polytechnic-state-university-pomona-to-destroy-books-for-starbucks/ Protect yourself from government gaffes, bureaucratic blunders and incumbent incompetence Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:25:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bob http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/03/08/california-polytechnic-state-university-pomona-to-destroy-books-for-starbucks/#comment-14573 Bob Fri, 01 Jun 2007 16:31:50 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/03/08/california-polytechnic-state-university-pomona-to-destroy-books-for-starbucks/#comment-14573 I thought all you Californians like to recycle? I thought all you Californians like to recycle?

]]> By: Michael Hampton http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/03/08/california-polytechnic-state-university-pomona-to-destroy-books-for-starbucks/#comment-14572 Michael Hampton Sat, 07 Apr 2007 01:31:36 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/03/08/california-polytechnic-state-university-pomona-to-destroy-books-for-starbucks/#comment-14572 You might try reading yourself. The article you referenced is linked directly above in comment 15. You might try reading yourself. The article you referenced is linked directly above in comment 15.

]]> By: Interested Patron http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/03/08/california-polytechnic-state-university-pomona-to-destroy-books-for-starbucks/#comment-14571 Interested Patron Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:50:05 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/03/08/california-polytechnic-state-university-pomona-to-destroy-books-for-starbucks/#comment-14571 I believe that the numbers are incorrect in this article. For more information on the truth about the boxed items, please read the following article. It may open your eyes to the truth. I believe that the numbers are incorrect in this article. For more information on the truth about the boxed items, please read the following article. It may open your eyes to the truth.

]]> By: library staff http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/03/08/california-polytechnic-state-university-pomona-to-destroy-books-for-starbucks/#comment-14570 library staff Sat, 17 Mar 2007 09:35:49 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/03/08/california-polytechnic-state-university-pomona-to-destroy-books-for-starbucks/#comment-14570 I work in the same library that Bruce Emerton works. This whole thing has caused the library nothing but bad reputation. Now we are asked about this “book dumping” all the time. Personally I think Bruce is using his campaign to embarrass the dean for his personal reasons. From years of working in the library and personal observation, I can say that he’s always had issues with the dean. It seemed like Bruce would challenge the dean’s decision at every library meetings that I have attended. Maybe his personal grudge with the dean has nothing to do with his effort of saving the books. But he’s definitely omitted a lot of information and sometime misled the audience. For example, he makes everyone believe that the library just “dumped” the books without safeguarding them first. As far as I know, it took months and proper procedures to withdraw these books. Also he’s never told you that we asked other institutions if they wanted our materials before discarding them. Because other institutions do not keep outdated materials, they refuse our materials. I work in the same library that Bruce Emerton works. This whole thing has caused the library nothing but bad reputation. Now we are asked about this “book dumping” all the time. Personally I think Bruce is using his campaign to embarrass the dean for his personal reasons. From years of working in the library and personal observation, I can say that he’s always had issues with the dean. It seemed like Bruce would challenge the dean’s decision at every library meetings that I have attended.

Maybe his personal grudge with the dean has nothing to do with his effort of saving the books. But he’s definitely omitted a lot of information and sometime misled the audience. For example, he makes everyone believe that the library just “dumped” the books without safeguarding them first. As far as I know, it took months and proper procedures to withdraw these books. Also he’s never told you that we asked other institutions if they wanted our materials before discarding them. Because other institutions do not keep outdated materials, they refuse our materials.

]]> By: James http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/03/08/california-polytechnic-state-university-pomona-to-destroy-books-for-starbucks/#comment-14569 James Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:04:47 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/03/08/california-polytechnic-state-university-pomona-to-destroy-books-for-starbucks/#comment-14569 I'm sorry, but I must retract the comment that I made earlier. Apparently all is not as it seems. Emerton has omitted several facts in his campaign and has effectively clouded the truth. The responses that I received from archivist and special collections and music librarian Danette Cook Adamson and collection management coordinator Ann Morgan are too detailed to list here. Please see my post, <a href="http://macmanx.com/2007/03/14/cal-poly-pomona-is-not-destroying-books-for-a-starbucks/" rel="nofollow">Cal Poly Pomona is not Destroying Books for a Starbucks</a>, for more info. I’m sorry, but I must retract the comment that I made earlier. Apparently all is not as it seems. Emerton has omitted several facts in his campaign and has effectively clouded the truth.

The responses that I received from archivist and special collections and music librarian Danette Cook Adamson and collection management coordinator Ann Morgan are too detailed to list here. Please see my post, Cal Poly Pomona is not Destroying Books for a Starbucks, for more info.

]]> By: Michael Hampton http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/03/08/california-polytechnic-state-university-pomona-to-destroy-books-for-starbucks/#comment-14568 Michael Hampton Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:08:04 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/03/08/california-polytechnic-state-university-pomona-to-destroy-books-for-starbucks/#comment-14568 That sounds like a fairly easy mistake to make when you're dealing with hundreds of thousands of books, which are bound to have more than one rare collection among them. And from what I understand, every book currently in storage is at risk of being thrown away anyway. As for getting rid of the books, they could try eBay. I hear you can sell anything there. That sounds like a fairly easy mistake to make when you’re dealing with hundreds of thousands of books, which are bound to have more than one rare collection among them. And from what I understand, every book currently in storage is at risk of being thrown away anyway.

As for getting rid of the books, they could try eBay. I hear you can sell anything there.

]]> By: Grace http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/03/08/california-polytechnic-state-university-pomona-to-destroy-books-for-starbucks/#comment-14567 Grace Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:49:36 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/03/08/california-polytechnic-state-university-pomona-to-destroy-books-for-starbucks/#comment-14567 Sure, it makes sense you're skeptical, I guess. Here's a quick example of the information I think is wrong. With the more detailed stuff, I can't elaborate because it gets into all these numbers I don't have. But basically, I knew something was wrong when Bruce said that this rare collection of environmental design books was thrown away. Of couse, when I heard about it through the college of ENV, I was appalled because the collection was supposed to be really rare -- like the only one in Southern California rare. I checked with someone and it turned out it wasn't in the library. BUT, it wasn't thrown out either. It's in storage and they said it definitely would not have ben thrown away. I figure they couldn't lie about it because when the library reopens the collection will be there. How can you pretend it's not gone, you know? And, I know this is jsut hearsay, but I believe the person who told me, but she said that they tried to give away the thrown out stuff, but other libraries and groups didn't want them either. I totally think they should have recycled though. If you want more info, maybe if you called the Library faculty adn staff and college of ENV staff you'll hear more from them directly? When I talked to them, they were open about it... but I'm not sure if they'll be more tightlipped if you're a reporter or blogger or something... Sure, it makes sense you’re skeptical, I guess. Here’s a quick example of the information I think is wrong. With the more detailed stuff, I can’t elaborate because it gets into all these numbers I don’t have. But basically, I knew something was wrong when Bruce said that this rare collection of environmental design books was thrown away. Of couse, when I heard about it through the college of ENV, I was appalled because the collection was supposed to be really rare — like the only one in Southern California rare. I checked with someone and it turned out it wasn’t in the library. BUT, it wasn’t thrown out either. It’s in storage and they said it definitely would not have ben thrown away. I figure they couldn’t lie about it because when the library reopens the collection will be there. How can you pretend it’s not gone, you know? And, I know this is jsut hearsay, but I believe the person who told me, but she said that they tried to give away the thrown out stuff, but other libraries and groups didn’t want them either. I totally think they should have recycled though. If you want more info, maybe if you called the Library faculty adn staff and college of ENV staff you’ll hear more from them directly? When I talked to them, they were open about it… but I’m not sure if they’ll be more tightlipped if you’re a reporter or blogger or something…

]]> By: Michael Hampton http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/03/08/california-polytechnic-state-university-pomona-to-destroy-books-for-starbucks/#comment-14566 Michael Hampton Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:33:14 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/03/08/california-polytechnic-state-university-pomona-to-destroy-books-for-starbucks/#comment-14566 And how do you know "the three people" you talked to weren't the ones being extreme and giving you false information? And, what information is false? And how do you know “the three people” you talked to weren’t the ones being extreme and giving you false information? And, what information is false?

]]> By: Grace http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/03/08/california-polytechnic-state-university-pomona-to-destroy-books-for-starbucks/#comment-14565 Grace Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:27:42 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/03/08/california-polytechnic-state-university-pomona-to-destroy-books-for-starbucks/#comment-14565 It's Grace again. Yes, I know Bruce. I actually supported him at the beginning, but then I began talking to more people and getting more information. I won't tell you the identities of the three people I talked to because they're so sick of being put in the middle. But, for me, in the end, I learned he's extreme and purposely giving out false information. That's when he lost my support. I still like him as a person though. He's usually a nice guy. It’s Grace again. Yes, I know Bruce. I actually supported him at the beginning, but then I began talking to more people and getting more information. I won’t tell you the identities of the three people I talked to because they’re so sick of being put in the middle. But, for me, in the end, I learned he’s extreme and purposely giving out false information. That’s when he lost my support. I still like him as a person though. He’s usually a nice guy.

]]> By: Citizen X http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/03/08/california-polytechnic-state-university-pomona-to-destroy-books-for-starbucks/#comment-14564 Citizen X Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:20:00 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/03/08/california-polytechnic-state-university-pomona-to-destroy-books-for-starbucks/#comment-14564 "That’s right, “California Polytechnic State University, Pomona” and “Cal Poly” are the property of the State of California, and using the name without permission is a crime under California state law." In some states (I believe California is one) the state owns the state code, or, at least parts of it. That means that you cannot reprint its laws without the state's permission. You could be prosecuted for posting the state law verbatim on a website. And here I thought ignorance of the law was no excuse. I guess you just have to buy a copy of it. “That’s right, “California Polytechnic State University, Pomona” and “Cal Poly” are the property of the State of California, and using the name without permission is a crime under California state law.”

In some states (I believe California is one) the state owns the state code, or, at least parts of it. That means that you cannot reprint its laws without the state’s permission. You could be prosecuted for posting the state law verbatim on a website. And here I thought ignorance of the law was no excuse. I guess you just have to buy a copy of it.

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