<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?><rss
version="2.0"
xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
xmlns:creativeCommons="http://backend.userland.com/creativeCommonsRssModule"
> <channel><title>Comments on: Astroglide tries to plug 260,000 customer data leak</title> <atom:link href="http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/23/astroglide-tries-to-plug-260000-customer-data-leak/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/23/astroglide-tries-to-plug-260000-customer-data-leak/</link> <description>Protect yourself from government gaffes, bureaucratic blunders and incumbent incompetence</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:15:45 -0400</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Chronicles of Dissent</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/23/astroglide-tries-to-plug-260000-customer-data-leak/#comment-41868</link> <dc:creator>Chronicles of Dissent</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 21:04:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/23/astroglide-tries-to-plug-260000-customer-data-leak/#comment-41868</guid> <description>[...] More than 250,000 people&#8217;s names and addresses were exposed in the Astroglide breach. According to Threat Level, the files indexed by Google contain a total of 263,822 listings, each of which included a name and mailing addresses. Michael Hampton also has more on follow-up and on BioFilm&#8217;s response, which was to essentially blame Google. [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] More than 250,000 people&#8217;s names and addresses were exposed in the Astroglide breach. According to Threat Level, the files indexed by Google contain a total of 263,822 listings, each of which included a name and mailing addresses. Michael Hampton also has more on follow-up and on BioFilm&#8217;s response, which was to essentially blame Google. [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Astroglide denies responsibility for customer information slip - Homeland Stupidity</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/23/astroglide-tries-to-plug-260000-customer-data-leak/#comment-41702</link> <dc:creator>Astroglide denies responsibility for customer information slip - Homeland Stupidity</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 03:18:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/23/astroglide-tries-to-plug-260000-customer-data-leak/#comment-41702</guid> <description>[...] Not surprisingly, the spokesperson tried to blame Google for the data breach, which exposed over 260,000 names and addresses of people who had ordered free samples of Astroglide products from 2003 to the present. [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Not surprisingly, the spokesperson tried to blame Google for the data breach, which exposed over 260,000 names and addresses of people who had ordered free samples of Astroglide products from 2003 to the present. [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dissent</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/23/astroglide-tries-to-plug-260000-customer-data-leak/#comment-41658</link> <dc:creator>Dissent</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:34:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/23/astroglide-tries-to-plug-260000-customer-data-leak/#comment-41658</guid> <description>Danielle: please keep us all updated on what happens with the FTC complaint.I wrote to BioFilm to ask if they were going to issue a press release or statement on this incident.  I&#039;m somewhat surprised that they have not done so already.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danielle: please keep us all updated on what happens with the FTC complaint.</p><p>I wrote to BioFilm to ask if they were going to issue a press release or statement on this incident.  I&#8217;m somewhat surprised that they have not done so already.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Danielle</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/23/astroglide-tries-to-plug-260000-customer-data-leak/#comment-41627</link> <dc:creator>Danielle</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 02:13:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/23/astroglide-tries-to-plug-260000-customer-data-leak/#comment-41627</guid> <description>Thank you two for backing me up. I hope anyone who uses the internet knows the difference between an encrypted site an an unencrypted one. I don&#039;t much care that someone else on my home network can sniff out what I&#039;m doing, and there&#039;s far too much internet traffic for anyone except the government&#039;s little watchdogs at AT&amp;T to catch it en route. That doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s going to be stored at a later date for anyone with an internet connection to easily find.
Anyway, a claim with the FTC has already been filed. There really was no reason to store this data on even the same computer as their site, nevermind in a directory served by their web server.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you two for backing me up. I hope anyone who uses the internet knows the difference between an encrypted site an an unencrypted one. I don&#8217;t much care that someone else on my home network can sniff out what I&#8217;m doing, and there&#8217;s far too much internet traffic for anyone except the government&#8217;s little watchdogs at AT&amp;T to catch it en route. That doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s going to be stored at a later date for anyone with an internet connection to easily find.<br
/> Anyway, a claim with the FTC has already been filed. There really was no reason to store this data on even the same computer as their site, nevermind in a directory served by their web server.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dissent</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/23/astroglide-tries-to-plug-260000-customer-data-leak/#comment-41614</link> <dc:creator>Dissent</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 23:15:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/23/astroglide-tries-to-plug-260000-customer-data-leak/#comment-41614</guid> <description>Not to mention that the FTC has fined other companies in the past for promising to protect data and then exposing PII on the web.There&#039;s nothing that required the company to retain those files on a public server for 4 years.  They could have retained them offline.In any event, their privacy policy gave assurances that they did not live up to and I view them as being responsible.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention that the FTC has fined other companies in the past for promising to protect data and then exposing PII on the web.</p><p>There&#8217;s nothing that required the company to retain those files on a public server for 4 years.  They could have retained them offline.</p><p>In any event, their privacy policy gave assurances that they did not live up to and I view them as being responsible.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Michael Hampton</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/23/astroglide-tries-to-plug-260000-customer-data-leak/#comment-41602</link> <dc:creator>Michael Hampton</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 21:31:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/23/astroglide-tries-to-plug-260000-customer-data-leak/#comment-41602</guid> <description>Whether the site is encrypted or not has nothing to do with whether the web site operator makes reports of submitted data and publishes them on the web site. This is what they did. If you&#039;ve been around 15 years, you should know this.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether the site is encrypted or not has nothing to do with whether the web site operator makes reports of submitted data and publishes them on the web site. This is what they did. If you&#8217;ve been around 15 years, you should know this.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: BelchSpeak</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/23/astroglide-tries-to-plug-260000-customer-data-leak/#comment-41586</link> <dc:creator>BelchSpeak</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 18:05:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/23/astroglide-tries-to-plug-260000-customer-data-leak/#comment-41586</guid> <description>Sorry, there is indeed no difference between signing online petitions with your name and address and signing up for a free sample of a product without using an encrypted connection.Both are transmitted in clear text over many disparate networks before appearing on a website, and such information is recorded by security devices along the way.Individual users asking for a free sample of a product know the difference between an encrypted and unencrypted website.  And if they don&#039;t, they assume the risk.  It is not the fault of the company who ran the website.For those that don&#039;t know the difference:
The url begins with http&lt;b&gt;s&lt;/b&gt;://
Also, a little padlock should appear in the browser&#039;s tray.
Also, the site&#039;s certificate should be signed by a certificate authority.If this criteria is not met and someone types in their personal information, they have no right to act surprised if it is not protected.  This is basic intenet usage and it goes back 15 years.  To pretend that this type of data collection should be carefully guarded is preposterous.Its just funny because its &lt;b&gt;astroglide&lt;/b&gt;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, there is indeed no difference between signing online petitions with your name and address and signing up for a free sample of a product without using an encrypted connection.</p><p>Both are transmitted in clear text over many disparate networks before appearing on a website, and such information is recorded by security devices along the way.</p><p>Individual users asking for a free sample of a product know the difference between an encrypted and unencrypted website.  And if they don&#8217;t, they assume the risk.  It is not the fault of the company who ran the website.</p><p>For those that don&#8217;t know the difference:<br
/> The url begins with http<b>s</b>://<br
/> Also, a little padlock should appear in the browser&#8217;s tray.<br
/> Also, the site&#8217;s certificate should be signed by a certificate authority.</p><p>If this criteria is not met and someone types in their personal information, they have no right to act surprised if it is not protected.  This is basic intenet usage and it goes back 15 years.  To pretend that this type of data collection should be carefully guarded is preposterous.</p><p>Its just funny because its <b>astroglide</b>.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Danielle</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/23/astroglide-tries-to-plug-260000-customer-data-leak/#comment-41582</link> <dc:creator>Danielle</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 16:47:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/23/astroglide-tries-to-plug-260000-customer-data-leak/#comment-41582</guid> <description>BelchSpeak - I think you&#039;re a little wrong here. No, you&#039;re just wrong.When you publicly list your information like a phone number, or publicly sign a petition, you know that it will be published online. Nobody would sign up for lube if it meant their private information was going to be shared online. Their privacy policy - and yes, people do read these - directly states against this.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BelchSpeak &#8211; I think you&#8217;re a little wrong here. No, you&#8217;re just wrong.</p><p>When you publicly list your information like a phone number, or publicly sign a petition, you know that it will be published online. Nobody would sign up for lube if it meant their private information was going to be shared online. Their privacy policy &#8211; and yes, people do read these &#8211; directly states against this.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jason</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/23/astroglide-tries-to-plug-260000-customer-data-leak/#comment-41581</link> <dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 16:42:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/23/astroglide-tries-to-plug-260000-customer-data-leak/#comment-41581</guid> <description>@BelchSpeak;Your logic and examples are flawed.
People signing petitions actively and intentionally sign their data for record/viewing purposes, not necessarily only for a single party.And, you can become unlisted in the phone book.I would be willing to wager that Biofilm&#039;s Privacy Policy (with regard at least to requesting the free sample) does not state &quot;your information will be made available to the free public, by submitting this order form you agree to these terms&quot;.  I&#039;m sure it says exactly the opposite, perhaps the only &#039;data availability&#039; would be to relevant marketing by reputable 3rd parties/business partners or some such.If I&#039;m wrong, then these people don&#039;t have a case, but I don&#039;t believe that to be how things are.Submitting a private request is an entirely different world than a public signing (petitions, etc.), and a web accessible archive of that data could not possibly have been the intention of Biofilm.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@BelchSpeak;</p><p>Your logic and examples are flawed.<br
/> People signing petitions actively and intentionally sign their data for record/viewing purposes, not necessarily only for a single party.</p><p>And, you can become unlisted in the phone book.</p><p>I would be willing to wager that Biofilm&#8217;s Privacy Policy (with regard at least to requesting the free sample) does not state &#8220;your information will be made available to the free public, by submitting this order form you agree to these terms&#8221;.  I&#8217;m sure it says exactly the opposite, perhaps the only &#8216;data availability&#8217; would be to relevant marketing by reputable 3rd parties/business partners or some such.</p><p>If I&#8217;m wrong, then these people don&#8217;t have a case, but I don&#8217;t believe that to be how things are.</p><p>Submitting a private request is an entirely different world than a public signing (petitions, etc.), and a web accessible archive of that data could not possibly have been the intention of Biofilm.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: BelchSpeak</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/23/astroglide-tries-to-plug-260000-customer-data-leak/#comment-41578</link> <dc:creator>BelchSpeak</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:46:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/23/astroglide-tries-to-plug-260000-customer-data-leak/#comment-41578</guid> <description>Names and addresses submitted voluntarily to a roster is not a data breach, Mike.  For someone that is supposed to preach personal responsibility, why are you blaming a company for what its customers voluntarily submitted?  Users that submit anything to a non-encrypted site pass that data in clear text over the internets.  They should know that they are submitting it in clear text.Hey, I&#039;ll bird dog another big &quot;scoop&quot; for you.  Online petitions.  Those are full of names and addresses too.  Quick, say its a &quot;data breach,&quot; and write a story on it.Oh, and here&#039;s another big, big scoop for you.  Its a website called &quot;bigbook.com&quot;  If you type in any zip code and the first letters of any last name, you get the entries of everyone who has a listed number!  OMG!  Another data breach!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Names and addresses submitted voluntarily to a roster is not a data breach, Mike.  For someone that is supposed to preach personal responsibility, why are you blaming a company for what its customers voluntarily submitted?  Users that submit anything to a non-encrypted site pass that data in clear text over the internets.  They should know that they are submitting it in clear text.</p><p>Hey, I&#8217;ll bird dog another big &#8220;scoop&#8221; for you.  Online petitions.  Those are full of names and addresses too.  Quick, say its a &#8220;data breach,&#8221; and write a story on it.</p><p>Oh, and here&#8217;s another big, big scoop for you.  Its a website called &#8220;bigbook.com&#8221;  If you type in any zip code and the first letters of any last name, you get the entries of everyone who has a listed number!  OMG!  Another data breach!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: The Fine Art of Eccentricity &#183; Astroglide Slips Up!</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/23/astroglide-tries-to-plug-260000-customer-data-leak/#comment-41542</link> <dc:creator>The Fine Art of Eccentricity &#183; Astroglide Slips Up!</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 04:56:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/23/astroglide-tries-to-plug-260000-customer-data-leak/#comment-41542</guid> <description>[...] Astroglide lubes up over 260,000 people, then gives them the screw. Nice. [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Astroglide lubes up over 260,000 people, then gives them the screw. Nice. [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nigel Watt</title><link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/23/astroglide-tries-to-plug-260000-customer-data-leak/#comment-41541</link> <dc:creator>Nigel Watt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 04:36:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/23/astroglide-tries-to-plug-260000-customer-data-leak/#comment-41541</guid> <description>Nice job scooping the world.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice job scooping the world.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
<!-- This site's performance optimized by W3 Total Cache. Dramatically improve the speed and reliability of your blog!

Learn more about our WordPress Plugins: http://www.w3-edge.com/wordpress-plugins/

Minified using memcached
Page Caching using memcached (user agent is rejected)
Database Caching 9/19 queries in 0.015 seconds using memcached
Content Delivery Network via cdn.homelandstupidity.us

Served from: www.homelandstupidity.us @ 2010-03-18 23:27:28 -->