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	<title>Comments on: Help not wanted if you&#039;re an anarchist</title>
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	<description>Protect yourself from government gaffes, bureaucratic blunders and incumbent incompetence</description>
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		<title>By: Stud Muffin</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/05/23/help-not-wanted-if-youre-an-anarchist/#comment-15815</link>
		<dc:creator>Stud Muffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Strano and Kansas Mutual Aid are a bunch of losers, who are more interested in getting their names in the paper then doing anything constructive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Strano and Kansas Mutual Aid are a bunch of losers, who are more interested in getting their names in the paper then doing anything constructive.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/05/23/help-not-wanted-if-youre-an-anarchist/#comment-15814</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &#039;Federal Government&#039; is exactly the problem. What is described in the post above is exactly the definition of fascism. Just because there is an emergency does not mean it requires police lockdown and exclusion of volunteer help. That type of thinking is extremely flawed and dangerous and is the point of this entire site. &#039;We the People&#039; thanks but no thanks to &#039;Federal Government&#039;. Seeing the &#039;help&#039; given by the feds after Katrina the people obvsiously would better off without federal help. Go back to Nazi Germany and . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8216;Federal Government&#8217; is exactly the problem. What is described in the post above is exactly the definition of fascism. Just because there is an emergency does not mean it requires police lockdown and exclusion of volunteer help. That type of thinking is extremely flawed and dangerous and is the point of this entire site. &#8216;We the People&#8217; thanks but no thanks to &#8216;Federal Government&#8217;. Seeing the &#8216;help&#8217; given by the feds after Katrina the people obvsiously would better off without federal help. Go back to Nazi Germany and . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Hmm</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/05/23/help-not-wanted-if-youre-an-anarchist/#comment-15813</link>
		<dc:creator>Hmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 20:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, speaking from a federal government perspective, I totally agree to not allow any variety of a radical group into a disaster area when they do not possess background checks or have a history of being stable in their dispositions.
Anarchists are instigators unto themselves, and have a solitary personal agenda already in place that bluntly advertises that they distrust the government or any form of governmental institutions.  -So why would the government allow anyone who hates them to be amongst them?  They would only cause aggravation, discourse and eventual fighting on the incident&#039;s scene.  A disaster and incident scene must be tightly controlled.  Everyone is under extreme stress and does not want anyone of an adversarial nature involved; they also do not have disaster response training (also certified by the government), credit checks, criminal background checks, etc. in place.
What if one of them gets their hands on sensitive disaster paperwork (that contains social security numbers, cell phone numbers) and decides to mess with a government official or a disaster victim&#039;s personal data just to be subversive?
Anarchists cannot snub this culture&#039;s governmental structure and then offer assistance at the same time to the people they despise.  They should stick to thier own agendas by staying at home and keep bitching and moaning about a system they cannot change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, speaking from a federal government perspective, I totally agree to not allow any variety of a radical group into a disaster area when they do not possess background checks or have a history of being stable in their dispositions.<br />
Anarchists are instigators unto themselves, and have a solitary personal agenda already in place that bluntly advertises that they distrust the government or any form of governmental institutions.  -So why would the government allow anyone who hates them to be amongst them?  They would only cause aggravation, discourse and eventual fighting on the incident&#8217;s scene.  A disaster and incident scene must be tightly controlled.  Everyone is under extreme stress and does not want anyone of an adversarial nature involved; they also do not have disaster response training (also certified by the government), credit checks, criminal background checks, etc. in place.<br />
What if one of them gets their hands on sensitive disaster paperwork (that contains social security numbers, cell phone numbers) and decides to mess with a government official or a disaster victim&#8217;s personal data just to be subversive?<br />
Anarchists cannot snub this culture&#8217;s governmental structure and then offer assistance at the same time to the people they despise.  They should stick to thier own agendas by staying at home and keep bitching and moaning about a system they cannot change.</p>
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		<title>By: Angel</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/05/23/help-not-wanted-if-youre-an-anarchist/#comment-15812</link>
		<dc:creator>Angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 19:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course government officials don&#039;t want political activists helping where they have stopped.  That is exactly how Hamas has taken over Gaza.  If you want to control a population, be their hero, bring them food and supplies. No guerrilla worth their grain of salt ever became the enemy of the township they were trying to take. Just like the lack of reasoning of going into Iraq.  If our government had decided to take a deep breath, thought about what was in OUR best interests (not just $$$ from govt.contracts)and use the war chest budget to give everyone a rebate through DMV for exchanging their gas-hog cars for an electric car- that would have been the end of the story. Really, there are simple solutions but no one is asking US. People with simple solutions are usually the security risks.  Folks, just be flexible.  We will be contorting in ways never imaginable within the next 15 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course government officials don&#8217;t want political activists helping where they have stopped.  That is exactly how Hamas has taken over Gaza.  If you want to control a population, be their hero, bring them food and supplies. No guerrilla worth their grain of salt ever became the enemy of the township they were trying to take. Just like the lack of reasoning of going into Iraq.  If our government had decided to take a deep breath, thought about what was in OUR best interests (not just $$$ from govt.contracts)and use the war chest budget to give everyone a rebate through DMV for exchanging their gas-hog cars for an electric car- that would have been the end of the story. Really, there are simple solutions but no one is asking US. People with simple solutions are usually the security risks.  Folks, just be flexible.  We will be contorting in ways never imaginable within the next 15 years.</p>
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		<title>By: LAW</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/05/23/help-not-wanted-if-youre-an-anarchist/#comment-15811</link>
		<dc:creator>LAW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 01:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have rules and laws to protect others. IF anyone breaks them including cops, they should be held accountable. No one is above the law. If we did not have laws, our country would be uncivilized. We would be like Cave men. Who needs more problems???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have rules and laws to protect others. IF anyone breaks them including cops, they should be held accountable. No one is above the law. If we did not have laws, our country would be uncivilized. We would be like Cave men. Who needs more problems???</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/05/23/help-not-wanted-if-youre-an-anarchist/#comment-15810</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 16:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The police state is not coming, it is already here.  We have routine police checkpoints here in New Orleans that occur almost daily now.  Why the checkpoints? To check for sobriety of course.  You can now be stopped and interrogated by police just for merely being on a public street.  If you don&#039;t produce your papers and effects, you are ticketed or arrested.  Probable cause and warrants are no longer necessary.  Thus, American police = gestapo.

I am filing a suit in federal court next week to try and stop this practice altogether as unconstitutional.  May God be with us in this final fight for man over the state.

David Kervin, Jr.
Attorney at Law
New Orleans, LA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The police state is not coming, it is already here.  We have routine police checkpoints here in New Orleans that occur almost daily now.  Why the checkpoints? To check for sobriety of course.  You can now be stopped and interrogated by police just for merely being on a public street.  If you don&#8217;t produce your papers and effects, you are ticketed or arrested.  Probable cause and warrants are no longer necessary.  Thus, American police = gestapo.</p>
<p>I am filing a suit in federal court next week to try and stop this practice altogether as unconstitutional.  May God be with us in this final fight for man over the state.</p>
<p>David Kervin, Jr.<br />
Attorney at Law<br />
New Orleans, LA</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Clore</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/05/23/help-not-wanted-if-youre-an-anarchist/#comment-15809</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Clore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 00:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s some recent history that might put this event into perspective:

So, in the case of Katrina, we see that while the government disaster relief effort became a second disaster itself, the Common Ground Collective, an anarchist (or rather, anarchist-leaning, as not all members were necessarily anarchists themselves) relief group organized on anarchist lines (note: anarchists do not oppose organization, they oppose involuntary, hierarchical organization in favor of voluntary, non-hierarchical self-organization) did a good job providing disaster relief.

I suspect that rather than any fears about Kansas Mutual Aid making trouble, this really came from concern that they would do a good job providing disaster relief, with the attendant good publicity for anarchists and anarchism and bad publicity for government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s some recent history that might put this event into perspective:</p>
<p>So, in the case of Katrina, we see that while the government disaster relief effort became a second disaster itself, the Common Ground Collective, an anarchist (or rather, anarchist-leaning, as not all members were necessarily anarchists themselves) relief group organized on anarchist lines (note: anarchists do not oppose organization, they oppose involuntary, hierarchical organization in favor of voluntary, non-hierarchical self-organization) did a good job providing disaster relief.</p>
<p>I suspect that rather than any fears about Kansas Mutual Aid making trouble, this really came from concern that they would do a good job providing disaster relief, with the attendant good publicity for anarchists and anarchism and bad publicity for government.</p>
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		<title>By: Thunderbird</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/05/23/help-not-wanted-if-youre-an-anarchist/#comment-15808</link>
		<dc:creator>Thunderbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 03:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t you poor uneducated masses worry, big brother knows what&#039;s best for you. just keep watching TV and paying your taxes and everything will be alriiiight.... because the government looooves you and would neeever do anything to haaarm you... just do what we say and everything will be fiiine...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you poor uneducated masses worry, big brother knows what&#8217;s best for you. just keep watching TV and paying your taxes and everything will be alriiiight&#8230;. because the government looooves you and would neeever do anything to haaarm you&#8230; just do what we say and everything will be fiiine&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: geri</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/05/23/help-not-wanted-if-youre-an-anarchist/#comment-15807</link>
		<dc:creator>geri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 16:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which puts his administration&#039;s mentality in a nutshell. They sound like children on the playground who have the ball and want to make up all the rules.
Sorry, I just can&#039;t go along with the stupidity and childishness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which puts his administration&#8217;s mentality in a nutshell. They sound like children on the playground who have the ball and want to make up all the rules.<br />
Sorry, I just can&#8217;t go along with the stupidity and childishness.</p>
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		<title>By: Verbos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Verbos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 14:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@geri

I think Bush&#039;s exact words were, &quot;If your not with us, your against us&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@geri</p>
<p>I think Bush&#8217;s exact words were, &#8220;If your not with us, your against us&#8221;.</p>
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