Comments on: Vermont accepts the other REAL ID http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/08/22/vermont-accepts-the-other-real-id/ Protect yourself from government gaffes, bureaucratic blunders and incumbent incompetence Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:25:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: RuleofLaw http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/08/22/vermont-accepts-the-other-real-id/#comment-16614 RuleofLaw Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:22:08 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/08/22/vermont-accepts-the-other-real-id/#comment-16614 Per your moral high ground theory, you have obviously convinced yourself that you are some sort of deity....that being said it's hard to imagine that a deity would forget yet again (for the third time) to address even the most finite part of my arguments that having a national ID the past 30 years that would have been required to gain access to public housing, welfare benefits, employment, hospitalization, education, etc would have prevented the mess our country finds itself in today. All anybody has to do to see the effects of not having a national ID is to tune in to current news about California's bankruptcy. Are you going to address my arguments with any sort of logical reasoning of your own or just continue to blow hot air about your "supremacy". Per your moral high ground theory, you have obviously convinced yourself that you are some sort of deity….that being said it’s hard to imagine that a deity would forget yet again (for the third time) to address even the most finite part of my arguments that having a national ID the past 30 years that would have been required to gain access to public housing, welfare benefits, employment, hospitalization, education, etc would have prevented the mess our country finds itself in today. All anybody has to do to see the effects of not having a national ID is to tune in to current news about California’s bankruptcy. Are you going to address my arguments with any sort of logical reasoning of your own or just continue to blow hot air about your “supremacy”.

]]> By: Michael Hampton http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/08/22/vermont-accepts-the-other-real-id/#comment-16613 Michael Hampton Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:33:41 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/08/22/vermont-accepts-the-other-real-id/#comment-16613 Do you have any idea who you're talking to or where you are? What makes you think this country doesn't already have a national ID, <em>de facto</em> if not <em>de jure</em>? What makes you think identifying all the <em>Americans</em> will have any effect whatsoever on non-Americans who are "illegal"? And finally, yes, I have the moral high ground over <em>you</em>, at least. Do you have any idea who you’re talking to or where you are?

What makes you think this country doesn’t already have a national ID, de facto if not de jure?

What makes you think identifying all the Americans will have any effect whatsoever on non-Americans who are “illegal”?

And finally, yes, I have the moral high ground over you, at least.

]]> By: RuleofLaw http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/08/22/vermont-accepts-the-other-real-id/#comment-16612 RuleofLaw Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:29:36 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/08/22/vermont-accepts-the-other-real-id/#comment-16612 As a military retiree I have NO conflict of interest in what I have stated. I spoke on behalf of no one but myself and as such have disclosed all I need to. What brings on this Gestapo like behavior? Who / What gives you the authority to disclose anything or anybody? Or do you possess the moral highground over everyone posting here? WEAK! I'm still waiting for what this forum was designed for...a sharing of free speech and ideas. I'm still waiting for your long laundry list of how lack of a national ID has benefitted this country so tremendously. As a military retiree I have NO conflict of interest in what I have stated. I spoke on behalf of no one but myself and as such have disclosed all I need to. What brings on this Gestapo like behavior? Who / What gives you the authority to disclose anything or anybody? Or do you possess the moral highground over everyone posting here? WEAK! I’m still waiting for what this forum was designed for…a sharing of free speech and ideas. I’m still waiting for your long laundry list of how lack of a national ID has benefitted this country so tremendously.

]]> By: Michael Hampton http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/08/22/vermont-accepts-the-other-real-id/#comment-16611 Michael Hampton Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:12:40 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/08/22/vermont-accepts-the-other-real-id/#comment-16611 I'm not arguing you should not have free speech. I'm saying you should disclose your conflict of interest -- or, rather, disclosing it for you. I’m not arguing you should not have free speech. I’m saying you should disclose your conflict of interest — or, rather, disclosing it for you.

]]> By: RuleofLaw http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/08/22/vermont-accepts-the-other-real-id/#comment-16610 RuleofLaw Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:07:23 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/08/22/vermont-accepts-the-other-real-id/#comment-16610 How LAME. I'm speaking as a military retiree and after 20 years of getting shot at I have just as much right as you to free speech. How typical of the segment you apparently represent by calling inflammatory any free speech that doesn't tow your line. Maybe you can't handle democracy? What are you doing here in an open forum if you can stomach free speech. WEAK! Instead of attacking the person,and changing the subject, how about responding with a logical argument supporting your apparent view that lack of a national ID has soooooo tremendously benefited our country the past 30 years, rampant now with identity theft and 20 million illegals. How LAME. I’m speaking as a military retiree and after 20 years of getting shot at I have just as much right as you to free speech. How typical of the segment you apparently represent by calling inflammatory any free speech that doesn’t tow your line. Maybe you can’t handle democracy? What are you doing here in an open forum if you can stomach free speech. WEAK! Instead of attacking the person,and changing the subject, how about responding with a logical argument supporting your apparent view that lack of a national ID has soooooo tremendously benefited our country the past 30 years, rampant now with identity theft and 20 million illegals.

]]> By: Michael Hampton http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/08/22/vermont-accepts-the-other-real-id/#comment-16609 Michael Hampton Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:07:16 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/08/22/vermont-accepts-the-other-real-id/#comment-16609 You should at least disclose that you still work for the government, when you make inflammatory statements like that. You should at least disclose that you still work for the government, when you make inflammatory statements like that.

]]> By: RuleofLaw http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/08/22/vermont-accepts-the-other-real-id/#comment-16608 RuleofLaw Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:59:39 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/08/22/vermont-accepts-the-other-real-id/#comment-16608 Cry me a river about the dangers/inconveniences of a national ID. I've carried with me a military ID my entire life, first as a military dependent, then during the 20 years I served, and then for the rest of my life as a military retiree. If service members can survive carrying an ID card their whole life, why can't the rest of you? If we had a national ID and required this for employment and every government benefit for the past 30 years we wouldn't have the 20 million illegals running rampant and God only knows who else running around our country at will getting drivers licenses, taking American jobs, swamping our public housing complexe, and hospital, and jails, and putting our country into bankruptcy. You non ID folks...you've had it your way the past decades...how's the non ID thing been working out for you. Our country is hitting the skids and you still don't get it. Cry me a river about the dangers/inconveniences of a national ID. I’ve carried with me a military ID my entire life, first as a military dependent, then during the 20 years I served, and then for the rest of my life as a military retiree. If service members can survive carrying an ID card their whole life, why can’t the rest of you? If we had a national ID and required this for employment and every government benefit for the past 30 years we wouldn’t have the 20 million illegals running rampant and God only knows who else running around our country at will getting drivers licenses, taking American jobs, swamping our public housing complexe, and hospital, and jails, and putting our country into bankruptcy. You non ID folks…you’ve had it your way the past decades…how’s the non ID thing been working out for you. Our country is hitting the skids and you still don’t get it.

]]> By: j http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/08/22/vermont-accepts-the-other-real-id/#comment-16607 j Wed, 23 Jan 2008 04:52:34 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/08/22/vermont-accepts-the-other-real-id/#comment-16607 i can proudly say that there is a very strong group in vermont who oppose the real id card. We will be fighting to the end for the basic rights that we all have! i can proudly say that there is a very strong group in vermont who oppose the real id card. We will be fighting to the end for the basic rights that we all have!

]]> By: Blaze http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/08/22/vermont-accepts-the-other-real-id/#comment-16606 Blaze Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:52:23 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/08/22/vermont-accepts-the-other-real-id/#comment-16606 loch and Patrick, you make an excellent point... although, as unfortunate as it may seem, i believe your wisdom is lost on these ignorant folks. when we're all lining up to have our id's verified and those of us who refuse to be numbered and inventoried like product are subsequently rounded up into FEMA detention centers, perhaps they will think back to this article... but probably not. loch and Patrick, you make an excellent point… although, as unfortunate as it may seem, i believe your wisdom is lost on these ignorant folks.

when we’re all lining up to have our id’s verified and those of us who refuse to be numbered and inventoried like product are subsequently rounded up into FEMA detention centers, perhaps they will think back to this article…

but probably not.

]]> By: Blaze http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/08/22/vermont-accepts-the-other-real-id/#comment-16605 Blaze Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:51:36 +0000 http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/08/22/vermont-accepts-the-other-real-id/#comment-16605 loch and Patrick, you make an excellent point... although, as unfortunate as it may seem, i believe your wisdom is lost on these ignorant folks. when we're all lining up to have our id's verified and those of us who refuse to be numbered and inventoried like product are subsequently rounded up into FEMA detention centers, perhaps they will think back to this article... but probably not. loch and Patrick, you make an excellent point… although, as unfortunate as it may seem, i believe your wisdom is lost on these ignorant folks.

when we’re all lining up to have our id’s verified and those of us who refuse to be numbered and inventoried like product are subsequently rounded up into FEMA detention centers, perhaps they will think back to this article…

but probably not.

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