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		<title>By: peter griffin</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/10/12/poisoned-jawbreakers-the-next-terrorist-attack/#comment-17163</link>
		<dc:creator>peter griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 07:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heheheheheehheheheheheheehehehhehehehehehe.
Ron paul should be president...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heheheheheehheheheheheheehehehhehehehehehe.<br />
Ron paul should be president&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff Hoyt.  I would sure like to hear your opinion on post #44.  I think I made some good arguments there.  I&#039;ve been checking back here everyday.  Is there any place we can talk about this on your site Michael Hampton?
If it is obviously something a few of your readers would like to discuss, maybe you could write a piece of your own on the subject that we would be able to comment on.  I would like to hear your opinion on the conspiracy theory too, if you are not too busy with the Ron Paul campaign.  What&#039;s happening with the Liberty Dollar case?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff Hoyt.  I would sure like to hear your opinion on post #44.  I think I made some good arguments there.  I&#8217;ve been checking back here everyday.  Is there any place we can talk about this on your site Michael Hampton?<br />
If it is obviously something a few of your readers would like to discuss, maybe you could write a piece of your own on the subject that we would be able to comment on.  I would like to hear your opinion on the conspiracy theory too, if you are not too busy with the Ron Paul campaign.  What&#8217;s happening with the Liberty Dollar case?</p>
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		<title>By: thunderbird</title>
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		<dc:creator>thunderbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 21:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this can&#039;t be real.... it&#039;s like something you would see in weekly world news.

although no one has ever accused the government of being logical or sane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this can&#8217;t be real&#8230;. it&#8217;s like something you would see in weekly world news.</p>
<p>although no one has ever accused the government of being logical or sane.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And then there was silence and they spoke of the planes and the towers and the poisoned gumballs no more.  Until.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And then there was silence and they spoke of the planes and the towers and the poisoned gumballs no more.  Until&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/10/12/poisoned-jawbreakers-the-next-terrorist-attack/#comment-17159</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Mr. Hampton.  Somebody else started it at #22 and then we just couldn&#039;t shut up about it.  No excuses, I will endeavor to not let this sort of thing happen again.  Not really much a guy can say about the gumball thing though.  It&#039;s just stupid and that pretty much sums it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Mr. Hampton.  Somebody else started it at #22 and then we just couldn&#8217;t shut up about it.  No excuses, I will endeavor to not let this sort of thing happen again.  Not really much a guy can say about the gumball thing though.  It&#8217;s just stupid and that pretty much sums it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which comment explains my reticence to procede without the moderator&#039;s blessing...
My apologies to all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which comment explains my reticence to procede without the moderator&#8217;s blessing&#8230;<br />
My apologies to all.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hampton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hampton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the hell does any of this have to do with poisoned gumballs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the hell does any of this have to do with poisoned gumballs?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m ready to move to another site or shut up if Michael says so, but I can&#039;t hold it any longer.  (I hope you’re ready, it’s a long one.)
Let’s assume for argument’s sake that you are right.  The WTC collapse was a government orchestrated event.  Now let’s look at the groundwork involved in planning something on that scale and bear in mind that every part of the plan would have required absolute secrecy and a fallback cover story in the event of discovery or accident.

Demolition plans would have had to have been engineered and worked out prior to the planting of the charges.  A crew would have had to have been assembled to actually carry out the work in the towers.  They would have needed to acquire enough explosives and detonators to do the job, a computer system capable of timing the detonations and transmitting multiple frequencies (if the detonators were wireless) and a place relatively close by where the computer and transmission equipment could have been stored and operated.  It also would have been necessary to transport the explosives and all other related supplies to a place reasonably close to the WTC for storage.  When you work on any project you need your materials close to the jobsite for practical reasons.  There would have been a need for two way communication during the operation.  It would have been absolutely necessary for the detonation frequencies and the communication frequencies to be unusable and undetectable by the general public, local police and fire departments, air traffic, naval traffic and any National Guard or military personnel in the area.  The signals could have been scrambled but that would have only meant more equipment on the detonation end and, over that length of time, the possibility of interfering with local signals during communications would have been a high risk.
If you want to blame the Bush administration, you must acknowledge that they only had at most, 8 months to do the job. During that time, the engineers were employed and paid. The work crew was fed, housed and paid.  The explosives and detonators (a large quantity-each floor was an acre in size) were manufactured, paid for, transported and stored.  A base of operations was established and dismantled after the job.  During the eight months of operations, not one stray radio signal was heard and even after the fact, under a veil of suspicion, not one member of the public has come forward and said “hey, I saw or heard something”.  Everyone involved in the work must have been fully aware of what they were doing because not one of them has come forward since the event and blown the whistle or shown remorse regarding the part that they may have unwittingly played......with the exception of Morgan Reynolds who knows all about it but doesn’t know any details and wasn’t involved in any criminal way.
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That’s not all.  While all this was going on, somehow the US government was secretly manipulating Mohammed Atta and the boys into taking flight training and planning the hijackings.  Their plans would have had to mesh perfectly with the demolition crew working and waiting in New York.  The terrorists never would have acted if they had been aware of the fact that they were puppets of the Great Satan.  That was quite a deception and extremely risky considering that the whole operation hinged on the timing of those aircraft impacts.

Now let’s throw in the attack on the Pentagon and assume that there was some similar type of organization and planning involved there although on a much smaller scale.  There also must have been an overall command base somewhere, overseeing all operations, if we are to believe that a problem was detected with Flight 93 and a jet or missile was standing by, in the air, ready to receive the order to shoot the passenger jet down.  That state of readiness must have then also been the case with all of the other hijacked jets.  This whole end of the operation would have also encountered the same problem with radio frequencies experienced at the Twin Towers.  This was a BIG operation and would have involved A LOT of people.  I know that they can scramble transmissions but the amount of radio traffic necessary to run this type of enterprise would have once again been a considerable risk.

It all went off without a hitch (except for Mr. Reynolds).  That’s hard for me to believe.  There are also rumors of the hijacked jets landing beforehand and offloading their passengers.  More planning, more timing, more people.  Where are those people?  If they were killed by the CIA to keep them quiet, why weren’t they just left on the planes?  When a plane is unloaded after an unscheduled landing in a busy airport, isn’t it likely that someone would see something or say something?  They say it was a missile that hit the Pentagon.  Where was it fired from?  It takes a crew or an aircraft to fire a missile, how did they keep that secret?  Why wouldn’t the dozens of airport radar installations in the area have picked something up?  Was that covered up too?  Where are the air traffic controllers and how did they keep all of them quiet?  Every question here raises the possibility for more people to have been involved but to this day, they’ve all been kept quiet.  Big question; when this level of secrecy was obviously maintained with that many random members of the public directly involved with the events of that day, IS it likely that a high ranking government official (Morgan Reynolds) would have been let in on the operation if he was NOT directly involved?  If he was involved, why hasn’t he been prosecuted?  It is more likely that his statements were motivated by the possible fact that he had an axe to grind with the Bush administration and took the opportunity (paid for by the Wisconsin Historical Society) to sling some mud in their direction.  Maybe they laid him off a month short of his pension.

I’m sorry; but it is just easier for me to believe that this job was pulled off by a bunch of wingnut, suicide hijackers.  It involved only a handful of people, very little money, a simple but workable plan and the motives behind the act along with the suicidal nature of the crime fit perfectly with the Moslem terrorist way.  To make it more believable, their attack didn’t go as planned.  They didn’t get the Whitehouse and they didn’t do much damage to the Pentagon.  It is not a stretch to reason that the terrorists would have expected a US reprisal after a successful attack, knowing full well that any military action in the Middle East leads to a dramatic increase in the price of oil.  That is where they get their money isn’t it? That just adds to their motive.  If the plan had leaked out in that social circle, it is more than likely that the holder of that information would not have cared about the infidel victims and would have moved to profit from the attack if possible.  That explains the profitable stock market activity just prior to 9/11.  The towers’ collapsing after the plane impacts was completely possible.  Flight 93 could easily have played out just like we talked about earlier.  Very few know everything that was going on in the confusion of that day and exactly what was covered up to avoid embarrassment.  Because of that, we probably never will know all of the details.  That’s normal.  Everything else in the government conspiracy theory is more than likely coincidence or just hindsight information bent to give a desired appearance.  I just don’t think it was possible for the government to have done this and not left behind a string of undeniable evidence and witnesses.

Your move Jeff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m ready to move to another site or shut up if Michael says so, but I can&#8217;t hold it any longer.  (I hope you’re ready, it’s a long one.)<br />
Let’s assume for argument’s sake that you are right.  The WTC collapse was a government orchestrated event.  Now let’s look at the groundwork involved in planning something on that scale and bear in mind that every part of the plan would have required absolute secrecy and a fallback cover story in the event of discovery or accident.</p>
<p>Demolition plans would have had to have been engineered and worked out prior to the planting of the charges.  A crew would have had to have been assembled to actually carry out the work in the towers.  They would have needed to acquire enough explosives and detonators to do the job, a computer system capable of timing the detonations and transmitting multiple frequencies (if the detonators were wireless) and a place relatively close by where the computer and transmission equipment could have been stored and operated.  It also would have been necessary to transport the explosives and all other related supplies to a place reasonably close to the WTC for storage.  When you work on any project you need your materials close to the jobsite for practical reasons.  There would have been a need for two way communication during the operation.  It would have been absolutely necessary for the detonation frequencies and the communication frequencies to be unusable and undetectable by the general public, local police and fire departments, air traffic, naval traffic and any National Guard or military personnel in the area.  The signals could have been scrambled but that would have only meant more equipment on the detonation end and, over that length of time, the possibility of interfering with local signals during communications would have been a high risk.<br />
If you want to blame the Bush administration, you must acknowledge that they only had at most, 8 months to do the job. During that time, the engineers were employed and paid. The work crew was fed, housed and paid.  The explosives and detonators (a large quantity-each floor was an acre in size) were manufactured, paid for, transported and stored.  A base of operations was established and dismantled after the job.  During the eight months of operations, not one stray radio signal was heard and even after the fact, under a veil of suspicion, not one member of the public has come forward and said “hey, I saw or heard something”.  Everyone involved in the work must have been fully aware of what they were doing because not one of them has come forward since the event and blown the whistle or shown remorse regarding the part that they may have unwittingly played&#8230;&#8230;with the exception of Morgan Reynolds who knows all about it but doesn’t know any details and wasn’t involved in any criminal way.<br />
.<br />
That’s not all.  While all this was going on, somehow the US government was secretly manipulating Mohammed Atta and the boys into taking flight training and planning the hijackings.  Their plans would have had to mesh perfectly with the demolition crew working and waiting in New York.  The terrorists never would have acted if they had been aware of the fact that they were puppets of the Great Satan.  That was quite a deception and extremely risky considering that the whole operation hinged on the timing of those aircraft impacts.</p>
<p>Now let’s throw in the attack on the Pentagon and assume that there was some similar type of organization and planning involved there although on a much smaller scale.  There also must have been an overall command base somewhere, overseeing all operations, if we are to believe that a problem was detected with Flight 93 and a jet or missile was standing by, in the air, ready to receive the order to shoot the passenger jet down.  That state of readiness must have then also been the case with all of the other hijacked jets.  This whole end of the operation would have also encountered the same problem with radio frequencies experienced at the Twin Towers.  This was a BIG operation and would have involved A LOT of people.  I know that they can scramble transmissions but the amount of radio traffic necessary to run this type of enterprise would have once again been a considerable risk.</p>
<p>It all went off without a hitch (except for Mr. Reynolds).  That’s hard for me to believe.  There are also rumors of the hijacked jets landing beforehand and offloading their passengers.  More planning, more timing, more people.  Where are those people?  If they were killed by the CIA to keep them quiet, why weren’t they just left on the planes?  When a plane is unloaded after an unscheduled landing in a busy airport, isn’t it likely that someone would see something or say something?  They say it was a missile that hit the Pentagon.  Where was it fired from?  It takes a crew or an aircraft to fire a missile, how did they keep that secret?  Why wouldn’t the dozens of airport radar installations in the area have picked something up?  Was that covered up too?  Where are the air traffic controllers and how did they keep all of them quiet?  Every question here raises the possibility for more people to have been involved but to this day, they’ve all been kept quiet.  Big question; when this level of secrecy was obviously maintained with that many random members of the public directly involved with the events of that day, IS it likely that a high ranking government official (Morgan Reynolds) would have been let in on the operation if he was NOT directly involved?  If he was involved, why hasn’t he been prosecuted?  It is more likely that his statements were motivated by the possible fact that he had an axe to grind with the Bush administration and took the opportunity (paid for by the Wisconsin Historical Society) to sling some mud in their direction.  Maybe they laid him off a month short of his pension.</p>
<p>I’m sorry; but it is just easier for me to believe that this job was pulled off by a bunch of wingnut, suicide hijackers.  It involved only a handful of people, very little money, a simple but workable plan and the motives behind the act along with the suicidal nature of the crime fit perfectly with the Moslem terrorist way.  To make it more believable, their attack didn’t go as planned.  They didn’t get the Whitehouse and they didn’t do much damage to the Pentagon.  It is not a stretch to reason that the terrorists would have expected a US reprisal after a successful attack, knowing full well that any military action in the Middle East leads to a dramatic increase in the price of oil.  That is where they get their money isn’t it? That just adds to their motive.  If the plan had leaked out in that social circle, it is more than likely that the holder of that information would not have cared about the infidel victims and would have moved to profit from the attack if possible.  That explains the profitable stock market activity just prior to 9/11.  The towers’ collapsing after the plane impacts was completely possible.  Flight 93 could easily have played out just like we talked about earlier.  Very few know everything that was going on in the confusion of that day and exactly what was covered up to avoid embarrassment.  Because of that, we probably never will know all of the details.  That’s normal.  Everything else in the government conspiracy theory is more than likely coincidence or just hindsight information bent to give a desired appearance.  I just don’t think it was possible for the government to have done this and not left behind a string of undeniable evidence and witnesses.</p>
<p>Your move Jeff.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay Jeff, I&#039;ve got another one on deck.  If we get the go ahead from Michael, I&#039;ll post it.  Don&#039;t worry about checking up on Uranus.  He must have retired.  Michael says a God named Tor is doing his job now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay Jeff, I&#8217;ve got another one on deck.  If we get the go ahead from Michael, I&#8217;ll post it.  Don&#8217;t worry about checking up on Uranus.  He must have retired.  Michael says a God named Tor is doing his job now.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 16:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the details, Michael Hampton.  Your comment wasn&#039;t there when I signed off.  I&#039;ll try to keep it together next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the details, Michael Hampton.  Your comment wasn&#8217;t there when I signed off.  I&#8217;ll try to keep it together next time.</p>
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