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		<title>By: NAFTA Superhighway Stalled: Ron Paul &#171; noworldsystem.com</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2008/06/22/aamva-to-build-real-id-verification-hub/#comment-17901</link>
		<dc:creator>NAFTA Superhighway Stalled: Ron Paul &#171; noworldsystem.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Read Full Article Here AAMVA To Build Real ID Verification Hubhttp://www.homelandstupidity.us/2008..d-real-id-verification-hub/ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ShortWoman&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Was it something I said? June Retrospective</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2008/06/22/aamva-to-build-real-id-verification-hub/#comment-17900</link>
		<dc:creator>ShortWoman&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Was it something I said? June Retrospective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] deal so for pity sake contact your Senators!; Real ID master verification hub being built under a no-bid contract; never use credit cards at &#8220;tire and retreading shops, massage parlors, bars, billiard halls, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: AAMVA to build REAL ID verification hub &#124; Alternative News Sources</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2008/06/22/aamva-to-build-real-id-verification-hub/#comment-17899</link>
		<dc:creator>AAMVA to build REAL ID verification hub &#124; Alternative News Sources</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] AAMVA to build REAL ID verification hub  Homeland Stupidity&#160; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2008/06/22/aamva-to-build-real-id-verification-hub/#comment-17898</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michael Hampton Homeland Stupidity June 24, 2008 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2008/06/22/aamva-to-build-real-id-verification-hub/#comment-17897</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do I detect a note of resignation and acceptance, Michael?  Possibly even defeat?  Give yourself a slap!  Things are just starting to get &quot;interesting&quot;.  Nobody can tell you what to do.  They just force you to make choices sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do I detect a note of resignation and acceptance, Michael?  Possibly even defeat?  Give yourself a slap!  Things are just starting to get &#8220;interesting&#8221;.  Nobody can tell you what to do.  They just force you to make choices sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hampton</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2008/06/22/aamva-to-build-real-id-verification-hub/#comment-17896</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hampton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose, Red Herring, that you&#039;re in a position to know.

All of these things about REAL ID are true, though they would apply just as much even in the absence of the REAL ID Act. Over the past few decades government has expanded dramatically and of course it wants you to be identified to it. A side effect of this has been that more and more private entities are asking for government ID when they have little or no reason to do so. Part of this is government mandate, for instance, carding people for alcohol and tobacco.

But the Rubicon was crossed when government made the driver license a form of identification. It originally was not; decades passed before any state made a driver license a form of identification. And since in the modern world virtually everyone must drive, or at least travel, virtually everyone gets a driver license, which also happens to be a form of identification.

Thus it is considered unusual to bordering on suspicious if someone does not have one, and someone not carrying identification these days should expect to be harassed at some point by the so-called &quot;authorities.&quot;

This of course gets worse with REAL ID, with the feds butting their nose in and telling the states what to do, and then deciding what states&#039; IDs they will accept -- and then require -- for any aspect of your life. But we were headed this way anyway; if it wasn&#039;t REAL ID, it would have been something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose, Red Herring, that you&#8217;re in a position to know.</p>
<p>All of these things about REAL ID are true, though they would apply just as much even in the absence of the REAL ID Act. Over the past few decades government has expanded dramatically and of course it wants you to be identified to it. A side effect of this has been that more and more private entities are asking for government ID when they have little or no reason to do so. Part of this is government mandate, for instance, carding people for alcohol and tobacco.</p>
<p>But the Rubicon was crossed when government made the driver license a form of identification. It originally was not; decades passed before any state made a driver license a form of identification. And since in the modern world virtually everyone must drive, or at least travel, virtually everyone gets a driver license, which also happens to be a form of identification.</p>
<p>Thus it is considered unusual to bordering on suspicious if someone does not have one, and someone not carrying identification these days should expect to be harassed at some point by the so-called &#8220;authorities.&#8221;</p>
<p>This of course gets worse with REAL ID, with the feds butting their nose in and telling the states what to do, and then deciding what states&#8217; IDs they will accept &#8212; and then require &#8212; for any aspect of your life. But we were headed this way anyway; if it wasn&#8217;t REAL ID, it would have been something else.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Herring</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2008/06/22/aamva-to-build-real-id-verification-hub/#comment-17895</link>
		<dc:creator>Red Herring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listen close &#039;cuz I&#039;m only going to say this once: Privacy is dead. You can find out anything about any one for $50 and five minutes on the Internet. The credit bureaus, the IRS and Social Security all have far more information about you than any DMV ever will. But, Oh My God, it&#039;s all in one database! So what? If your information is one database or ten, it doesn&#039;t matter. If &#039;the feds&#039; or anyone else wants a file on you, they&#039;ve already got it. The Real ID Act makes no difference either way.
What is scary about Real ID, and what you should be upset about, is what you will need a Real ID for.  Right now, it&#039;ll only be required for boarding planes and entering federal buildings. The first attempt at requiring a Real ID to for I-9 employment verification failed, but they will try again. You will probably need a Real ID to get a job at some point in the future, even if it&#039;s decades from now. How about requiring a Real ID to open a bank account? The possibilities are limitless and of course it&#039;s all in the name of security.
Privacy, schmivacy. The real problem is what they will use it for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen close &#8216;cuz I&#8217;m only going to say this once: Privacy is dead. You can find out anything about any one for $50 and five minutes on the Internet. The credit bureaus, the IRS and Social Security all have far more information about you than any DMV ever will. But, Oh My God, it&#8217;s all in one database! So what? If your information is one database or ten, it doesn&#8217;t matter. If &#8216;the feds&#8217; or anyone else wants a file on you, they&#8217;ve already got it. The Real ID Act makes no difference either way.<br />
What is scary about Real ID, and what you should be upset about, is what you will need a Real ID for.  Right now, it&#8217;ll only be required for boarding planes and entering federal buildings. The first attempt at requiring a Real ID to for I-9 employment verification failed, but they will try again. You will probably need a Real ID to get a job at some point in the future, even if it&#8217;s decades from now. How about requiring a Real ID to open a bank account? The possibilities are limitless and of course it&#8217;s all in the name of security.<br />
Privacy, schmivacy. The real problem is what they will use it for.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Fields</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2008/06/22/aamva-to-build-real-id-verification-hub/#comment-17894</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Fields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My God, we&#039;re turning into a real-life version of Demolition Man. I&#039;m waiting for the day when the government sends me off to a cryoprison for rehabilitation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My God, we&#8217;re turning into a real-life version of Demolition Man. I&#8217;m waiting for the day when the government sends me off to a cryoprison for rehabilitation.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hampton</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2008/06/22/aamva-to-build-real-id-verification-hub/#comment-17893</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hampton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 21:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AAMVA has been working on getting this contract &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/11/14/the-nice-guys-behind-real-id/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;for years&lt;/a&gt;. Of course, how they did it is to hire the correct politically connected people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AAMVA has been working on getting this contract <a href="http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/11/14/the-nice-guys-behind-real-id/" rel="nofollow">for years</a>. Of course, how they did it is to hire the correct politically connected people.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2008/06/22/aamva-to-build-real-id-verification-hub/#comment-17892</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Want to bet this as a kick back for their support of this disaster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Want to bet this as a kick back for their support of this disaster.</p>
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